Re: Request for help in adding a HDMI output

[o1bigtenor <o1bigtenor-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>]

On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 5:13 PM Ilia Mirkin <imirkin-FrUbXkNCsVf2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 6:09 PM o1bigtenor <o1bigtenor-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 12:52 PM Ilia Mirkin <imirkin-FrUbXkNCsVf2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 1:40 PM o1bigtenor <o1bigtenor-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 10:55 AM Ilia Mirkin <imirkin-FrUbXkNCsVf2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 2:13 PM o1bigtenor <o1bigtenor-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 12:26 PM Ilia Mirkin <imirkin-FrUbXkNCsVf2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org> wrote:https://rog.asus.com/ca-en/graphics-cards/graphics-cards/rog-strix/rog-strix-gtx1050ti-4g-gaming-model/spec/
> > > > > > snip
> > > >
> > > > I've been doing a bunch of research and have a whole lot more input but still
> > > > can't find any answers - - - - except holes where there 'should be' answers.
> > > >338.75  3840 4080 4488 5136  2160 2163 2168 2200 -hsync +vsync
> > > > I also understand you're trying to help but some of the stuff you've
> > > > been stating
> > > > - - - well - - - it just ain't so! - - - - so if you'd rather not
> > > > continue - - - - fair enough
> > > > - - - -
> > >
> > > No one's perfect. I have to make do with guesses which are the
> > > simplest explanations. Sometimes there's something else.
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Unfortunately it looks like you did this *after* messing with modelines.
> > > > >
> > > > Getting that information would have meant being able to go back in time some
> > > > 24 hours or so. I can't find any way of removing mode lines from xrandr - - -
> > > > or do you know of some?338.75  3840 4080 4488 5136  2160 2163 2168 2200 -hsync +vsync
> > >
> > > A reboot is a great way to reset these things.
> >
> > Unfortunately- - - - here - - - - a reboot means the use of about 30 minutes
> > in using xrandr to connect monitors 3 and 4 (even without the HDMI I'm
> > working on) and then setting up everything else on my system (only 20 desktops
> > and almost all of the them are loaded) so reboots are used as seldom as
> > possible.https://rog.asus.com/ca-en/graphics-cards/graphics-cards/rog-strix/rog-strix-gtx1050ti-4g-gaming-model/spec/
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > $ xrandr --verbose
> > > > >
> > > > > [ ... snip ...]
> > > > >
> > > > > > HDMI-1-2 connected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
> > > > > > Identifier: 0xf9
> > > > > > Timestamp:  483290
> > > > > > Subpixel:   unknown
> > > > > > Clones:
> > > > > > CRTCs:      4 5
> > > > > > Transform:  1.000000 0.000000 0.000000
> > > > > >             0.000000 1.000000 0.000000
> > > > > >             0.000000 0.000000 1.000000
> > > > > >            filter:
> > > > > > EDID:
> > > > > > 00ffffffffffff0020a32f0001000000
> > > > > > 0c1a0103807341780acf74a3574cb023
> > > > > > 09484c21080081c08140818001010101
> > > > > > 01010101010104740030f2705a80b058
> > > > > > 8a00501d7400001e023a801871382d40
> > > > > > 582c4500501d7400001e000000fc0048
> > > > > > 4953454e53450a2020202020000000fd
> > > > > > 00184b0f511e000a202020202020017f
> > > > > > 02034571525f5e5d0102040510111314
> > > > > > 1f202122626364290907071507505506
> > > > > > 0083010000e200f9e305ff016e030c00
> > > > > > 1000383c20008001020304e50e60616a
> > > > > > 6be3060d01011d8018711c1620582c25
> > > > > > 00c48e2100009e011d80d0721c162010
> > > > > > 2c2580c48e2100009e023a80d072382d
> > > > > > 40102c4580c48e2100001e00000000d5
> > > > >
> > > > > OK, so this is your 4k monitor. It is plugged into the *secondary*
> > > > > GPU, and does not report any 4k@60 modes in the EDID (well, it does
> > > > > report 4k@60 YUV 4:2:0 modes, but we don't support those in nouveau at
> > > > > this time). Whether that's because the monitor itself doesn't support
> > > > > HDMI 2.0, or you plugged it into your old GPU which does not support
> > > > > HDMI 2.0, I couldn't say from just this output. What I can say is that
> > > > > no amount of modelines will get you 4k@60 in this setup with nouveau.
> > > >
> > > > Here comes the part where you're getting some very funky information
> > > > and I wish I knew from where!
> > > > Actually the code, in hex, is NOT EDID - - - - that was superseded in
> > > > some 2017. Now that may be what nouveau is using but EDID2.0 was
> > > > released some time in 2007 yet its EDID1.4 that is used. That's the first
> > > > problem and it introduces the next problems. Using EDID means that
> > > > nouveau 'thinks' it see  a : (taken from /var/log/Xorg.0.log)
> > >
> > > EDID is very much a thing, and is basically the only thing. Things
> > > like DisplayID are extension blocks to the EDID.
> > >
> > > > So where are we at now - - - - -
> > > > well there is NO HDMI port on the EVGA Nvidia 570 card
> > >
> > > OK, that was a bad guess on my part to explain what I was seeing.
> > >
> > > > HDMI cable IS plugged in and there is only only place for it to be plugged
> > > >   in - - - - so the HDMI cable is plugged into the Nvidia 1050 Ti card
> > >
> > > Cool. So then what you said was incorrect -- the GTX 570 is the
> > > primary, and the 1050 is secondary. Please flip that around.
> > >
> > > > EDID really is way beyond EOL
> > > > Information provided by the EDID reading is most likely erroneous
> > > > Nouveau at lest doesn't seem to have gotten to DisplayID where the current,
> > > >    at least as of 2017, version is 2.0
> > > > if DisplayID were used perhaps the information  listed as taken from my system
> > > >    might be accurate
> > >
> > > EDID is the only way for a monitor to provide information. DisplayID
> > > is a block within the EDID. You can access a relatively full-featured
> > > parser at https://people.freedesktop.org/~imirkin/edid-decode/ -- just
> > > paste the hex there.
> >
> > edid-decode (hex):
> >
> > 00 ff ff ff ff ff ff 00 20 a3 2f 00 01 00 00 00
> > 0c 1a 01 03 80 73 41 78 0a cf 74 a3 57 4c b0 23
> > 09 48 4c 21 08 00 81 c0 81 40 81 80 01 01 01 01
> > 01 01 01 01 01 01 04 74 00 30 f2 70 5a 80 b0 58
> > 8a 00 50 1d 74 00 00 1e 02 3a 80 18 71 38 2d 40
> > 58 2c 45 00 50 1d 74 00 00 1e 00 00 00 fc 00 48
> > 49 53 45 4e 53 45 0a 20 20 20 20 20 00 00 00 fd
> > 00 18 4b 0f 51 1e 00 0a 20 20 20 20 20 20 01 7f
> >
> > 02 03 45 71 52 5f 5e 5d 01 02 04 05 10 11 13 14
> > 1f 20 21 22 62 63 64 29 09 07 07 15 07 50 55 06
> > 00 83 01 00 00 e2 00 f9 e3 05 ff 01 6e 03 0c 00
> > 10 00 38 3c 20 00 80 01 02 03 04 e5 0e 60 61 6a
> > 6b e3 06 0d 01 01 1d 80 18 71 1c 16 20 58 2c 25
> > 00 c4 8e 21 00 00 9e 01 1d 80 d0 72 1c 16 20 10
> > 2c 25 80 c4 8e 21 00 00 9e 02 3a 80 d0 72 38 2d
> > 40 10 2c 45 80 c4 8e 21 00 00 1e 00 00 00 00 d5
> >
> > ----------------
> >
> > Block 0, Base EDID:
> >   EDID Structure Version & Revision: 1.3
> >   Vendor & Product Identification:
> >     Manufacturer: HEC
> >     Model: 47
> >     Serial Number: 1
> >     Made in: week 12 of 2016
> >   Basic Display Parameters & Features:
> >     Digital display
> >     Maximum image size: 115 cm x 65 cm
> >     Gamma: 2.20
> >     RGB color display
> >     First detailed timing is the preferred timing
> >   Color Characteristics:
> >     Red  : 0.6396, 0.3398
> >     Green: 0.2998, 0.6904
> >     Blue : 0.1376, 0.0380
> >     White: 0.2822, 0.2968
> >   Established Timings I & II:
> >     DMT 0x04:   640x480    59.940 Hz   4:3    31.469 kHz  25.175 MHz
> >     DMT 0x09:   800x600    60.317 Hz   4:3    37.879 kHz  40.000 MHz
> >     DMT 0x10:  1024x768    60.004 Hz   4:3    48.363 kHz  65.000 MHz
> >   Standard Timings:
> >     DMT 0x55:  1280x720    60.000 Hz  16:9    45.000 kHz  74.250 MHz
> >     DMT 0x20:  1280x960    60.000 Hz   4:3    60.000 kHz 108.000 MHz
> >     DMT 0x23:  1280x1024   60.020 Hz   5:4    63.981 kHz 108.000 MHz
> >   Detailed Timing Descriptors:
> >     DTD 1:  3840x2160   30.000 Hz  16:9    67.500 kHz 297.000 MHz
> > (1872 mm x 1053 mm)
> >                  Hfront  176 Hsync  88 Hback 296 Hpol P
> >                  Vfront    8 Vsync  10 Vback  72 Vpol P
> >     DTD 2:  1920x1080   60.000 Hz  16:9    67.500 kHz 148.500 MHz
> > (1872 mm x 1053 mm)
> >                  Hfront   88 Hsync  44 Hback 148 Hpol P
> >                  Vfront    4 Vsync   5 Vback  36 Vpol P
> >     Display Product Name: 'HISENSE'
> >   Display Range Limits:
> >     Monitor ranges (GTF): 24-75 Hz V, 15-81 kHz H, max dotclock 300 MHz
> >   Extension blocks: 1
> > Checksum: 0x7f
> >
> > ----------------
> >
> > Block 1, CTA-861 Extension Block:
> >   Revision: 3
> >   Basic audio support
> >   Supports YCbCr 4:4:4
> >   Supports YCbCr 4:2:2
> >   Native detailed modes: 1
> >   Video Data Block:
> >     VIC  95:  3840x2160   30.000 Hz  16:9    67.500 kHz 297.000 MHz
> >     VIC  94:  3840x2160   25.000 Hz  16:9    56.250 kHz 297.000 MHz
> >     VIC  93:  3840x2160   24.000 Hz  16:9    54.000 kHz 297.000 MHz
> >     VIC   1:   640x480    59.940 Hz   4:3    31.469 kHz  25.175 MHz
> >     VIC   2:   720x480    59.940 Hz   4:3    31.469 kHz  27.000 MHz
> >     VIC   4:  1280x720    60.000 Hz  16:9    45.000 kHz  74.250 MHz
> >     VIC   5:  1920x1080i  60.000 Hz  16:9    33.750 kHz  74.250 MHz
> >     VIC  16:  1920x1080   60.000 Hz  16:9    67.500 kHz 148.500 MHz
> >     VIC  17:   720x576    50.000 Hz   4:3    31.250 kHz  27.000 MHz
> >     VIC  19:  1280x720    50.000 Hz  16:9    37.500 kHz  74.250 MHz
> >     VIC  20:  1920x1080i  50.000 Hz  16:9    28.125 kHz  74.250 MHz
> >     VIC  31:  1920x1080   50.000 Hz  16:9    56.250 kHz 148.500 MHz
> >     VIC  32:  1920x1080   24.000 Hz  16:9    27.000 kHz  74.250 MHz
> >     VIC  33:  1920x1080   25.000 Hz  16:9    28.125 kHz  74.250 MHz
> >     VIC  34:  1920x1080   30.000 Hz  16:9    33.750 kHz  74.250 MHz
> >     VIC  98:  4096x2160   24.000 Hz 256:135  54.000 kHz 297.000 MHz
> >     VIC  99:  4096x2160   25.000 Hz 256:135  56.250 kHz 297.000 MHz
> >     VIC 100:  4096x2160   30.000 Hz 256:135  67.500 kHz 297.000 MHz
> >   Audio Data Block:
> >     Linear PCM:
> >       Max channels: 2
> >       Supported sample rates (kHz): 48 44.1 32
> >       Supported sample sizes (bits): 24 20 16
> >     AC-3:
> >       Max channels: 6
> >       Supported sample rates (kHz): 48 44.1 32
> >       Maximum bit rate: 640 kb/s
> >     Enhanced AC-3 (DD+):
> >       Max channels: 6
> >       Supported sample rates (kHz): 48 44.1
> >   Speaker Allocation Data Block:
> >     FL/FR - Front Left/Right
> >   Video Capability Data Block:
> >     YCbCr quantization: Selectable (via AVI YQ)
> >     RGB quantization: Selectable (via AVI Q)
> >     PT scan behavior: Supports both over- and underscan
> >     IT scan behavior: Always Underscanned
> >     CE scan behavior: Always Overscanned
> >   Colorimetry Data Block:
> >     xvYCC601
> >     xvYCC709
> >     sYCC601
> >     opYCC601
> >     opRGB
> >     BT2020cYCC
> >     BT2020YCC
> >     BT2020RGB
> >   Vendor-Specific Data Block (HDMI), OUI 00-0C-03:
> >     Source physical address: 1.0.0.0
> >     DC_36bit
> >     DC_30bit
> >     DC_Y444
> >     Maximum TMDS clock: 300 MHz
> >     Extended HDMI video details:
> >       HDMI VICs:
> >         HDMI VIC 1:  3840x2160   30.000 Hz  16:9    67.500 kHz 297.000 MHz
> >         HDMI VIC 2:  3840x2160   25.000 Hz  16:9    56.250 kHz 297.000 MHz
> >         HDMI VIC 3:  3840x2160   24.000 Hz  16:9    54.000 kHz 297.000 MHz
> >         HDMI VIC 4:  4096x2160   24.000 Hz 256:135  54.000 kHz 297.000 MHz
> >   YCbCr 4:2:0 Video Data Block:
> >     VIC  96:  3840x2160   50.000 Hz  16:9    56.250 kHz 297.000 MHz
> >     VIC  97:  3840x2160   60.000 Hz  16:9    67.500 kHz 297.000 MHz
> >     VIC 106:  3840x2160   50.000 Hz  64:27   56.250 kHz 297.000 MHz
> >     VIC 107:  3840x2160   60.000 Hz  64:27   67.500 kHz 297.000 MHz
> >   HDR Static Metadata Data Block:
> >     Electro optical transfer functions:
> >       Traditional gamma - SDR luminance range
> >       SMPTE ST2084
> >       Hybrid Log-Gamma
> >     Supported static metadata descriptors:
> >       Static metadata type 1
> >   Detailed Timing Descriptors:
> >     DTD 3:  1920x1080i  60.000 Hz  16:9    33.750 kHz  74.250 MHz (708
> > mm x 398 mm)
> >                  Hfront   88 Hsync  44 Hback 148 Hpol P
> >                  Vfront    2 Vsync   5 Vback  15 Vpol P Vfront +0.5 Odd Field
> >                  Vfront    2 Vsync   5 Vback  15 Vpol P Vback  +0.5 Even Field
> >     DTD 4:  1920x1080i  50.000 Hz  16:9    28.125 kHz  74.250 MHz (708
> > mm x 398 mm)
> >                  Hfront  528 Hsync  44 Hback 148 Hpol P
> >                  Vfront    2 Vsync   5 Vback  15 Vpol P Vfront +0.5 Odd Field
> >                  Vfront    2 Vsync   5 Vback  15 Vpol P Vback  +0.5 Even Field
> >     DTD 5:  1920x1080   50.000 Hz  16:9    56.250 kHz 148.500 MHz (708
> > mm x 398 mm)
> >                  Hfront  528 Hsync  44 Hback 148 Hpol P
> >                  Vfront    4 Vsync   5 Vback  36 Vpol P
> > Checksum: 0xd5
> >
> > ----------------
> >
> > Preferred Video Timing if only Block 0 is parsed:
> >   DTD   1:  3840x2160   30.000 Hz  16:9    67.500 kHz 297.000 MHz
> > (1872 mm x 1053 mm)
> >                  Hfront  176 Hsync  88 Hback 296 Hpol P
> >                  Vfront    8 Vsync  10 Vback  72 Vpol P
> >
> > ----------------
> >
> > Native Video Timing if only Block 0 is parsed:
> >   DTD   1:  3840x2160   30.000 Hz  16:9    67.500 kHz 297.000 MHz
> > (1872 mm x 1053 mm)
> >                  Hfront  176 Hsync  88 Hback 296 Hpol P
> >                  Vfront    8 Vsync  10 Vback  72 Vpol P
>
> Yes ... I ran that output myself. What's the point here? Just
> confirming all the things I said I guess?
>
> > >
> > >
> > > Well, I knew it was for secondary GPU. Based on your comments, that
> > > was the 570. I shouldn't have assumed that to be accurate, that's my
> > > bad. I know it's the secondary because the output is named HDMI-1-2.
> > > That means it's on a secondary device. If it were primary, it would
> > > have been like HDMI-1 or HDMI-2.
> >
> > xrandr gives the following
> > HDMI-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
> > Identifier: 0x44
> > Timestamp:  483290
> > Subpixel:   unknown
> > Clones:
> > CRTCs:      0 1 2 3
> > Transform:  1.000000 0.000000 0.000000
> >             0.000000 1.000000 0.000000338.75  3840 4080 4488 5136
> > 2160 2163 2168 2200 -hsync +vsync338.75  3840 4080 4488 5136  2160
> > 2163 2168 2200 -hsync +vsync
> >             0.000000 0.000000 1.000000
> >            filter:
> > dithering depth: auto
> > supported: auto, 6 bpc, 8 bpc
> > dithering mode: auto
> > supported: auto, off, static 2x2, dynamic 2x2, temporal
> > scaling mode: None
> > supported: None, Full, Center, Full aspect
> > color vibrance: 150
> > range: (0, 200)
> > vibrant hue: 90
> > range: (0, 180)
> > underscan vborder: 0
> > range: (0, 128)
> > underscan hborder: 0
> > range: (0, 128)
> > underscan: off
> > supported: auto, off, on
> > link-status: Good
> > supported: Good, Bad
> > CONNECTOR_ID: 71
> > supported: 71
> > non-desktop: 0
> > range: (0, 1)
> >
> > >
> > > Perhaps not all the HDMI ports on the device are HDMI 2.0-capable? Or
> > > perhaps not all of them are on the GPU? What I'm seeing is the monitor
> > > reporting a max TMDS of 300mhz, which is not enough for 4k@60. However
> > > 4k@30 should work just fine out of the box.
> > >
> >
> > Had done apt upgrade so now am on a 5.10 kernel. (Maybe that will change
> > some things - - - here's hoping!!)
> > Did a reboot.
> > Setup system (xrandr to setup monitors for card 1 + other programs).
> >
> > $ cvt 3840 2160 30
> > # 3840x2160 29.98 Hz (CVT) hsync: 65.96 kHz; pclk: 338.75 MHz
> > Modeline "3840x2160_30.00"  338.75  3840 4080 4488 5136  2160 2163
> > 2168 2200 -hsync +vsync
> > $ xrandr --newmode "3840x2160_30.00"  338.75  3840 4080 4488 5136
> > 2160 2163 2168 2200 -hsync +vsync
> > $ xrandr --addmode HDMI-1 3840x2160_30.00
>
> If you do this, then you know you're messing something up. If the
> modeline isn't already there, don't try adding it. It won't work.

So what you're saying is that you can't add a
modeline?https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xrandr#Adding_undetected_resolutions
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xrandr#Adding_undetected_resolutions
was what I was following - - - - as I assumed that an undetected modeline
would be the same in Arch as it is in Debian.
>
> Anyways, good luck in getting this to work. It doesn't seem like
> you're too interested in applying my suggestions, so I'm not sure how
> I can help.

If you would point out a suggestion that I haven't tried - - - please?

Regards