From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Sisu Xi Subject: Re: [RFC Patch 1/3] Remove sedf extra, weight, and latency parameter support. Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 11:50:56 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1394824400-2796-1-git-send-email-nate.studer@dornerworks.com> <1394824400-2796-2-git-send-email-nate.studer@dornerworks.com> <1395400573.27358.44.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com> <532C2FCF.105@dornerworks.com> <1395418612.13892.155.camel@Solace> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1911238541713571262==" Return-path: In-Reply-To: <1395418612.13892.155.camel@Solace> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org Errors-To: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org To: Dario Faggioli Cc: Ian Campbell , Stefano Stabellini , George Dunlap , Ian Jackson , Robert VanVossen , xen-devel , Joshua Whitehead , Chong Lee , Meng Xu , Nate Studer List-Id: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org --===============1911238541713571262== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04389569f0a8da04f520b29c --f46d04389569f0a8da04f520b29c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi, Dario: Thanks for the coordination! It would be great if we can schedule a meeting to discuss this. I am widely open today, this weekend, and next Monday. I am ccing Meng and Chong, who's my collaborator on the RT-Xen project to see if they are interested in the meeting. Thanks again and I look forward to talking to you! Sisu On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Dario Faggioli wrote: > On ven, 2014-03-21 at 08:25 -0400, Nate Studer wrote: > > On 3/21/2014 7:16 AM, Ian Campbell wrote: > > > > If you intend in a future non-RFC version of this series to do > something > > > like that then we can follow that path at that time. > > > > Thanks for the information Ian. > > > > This is the intention, so we would prefer the LIBXL_HAVE_NEW_SCHED_THING > path. > > It seems cleaner. > > > > We just wanted to make sure that there were no major objections to > re-purposing > > the sedf scheduler before we went too far down that path, and so far we > have not > > seen anybody step up to defend the sedf scheduler. > > > Well, TBH, seeing someone standing up to defend it as it is now would > have been very surprising, from my point of view. :-) > > As I said, we really want something that is working, easier to maintain, > extensible and more advanced, and I think you're putting efforts in the > right direction" simplifying the current implementation is absolutely > necessary, given its super-broken status. > > So, unless someone starts screaming really soon, I'd say "go ahead". > > The one thing I'd like to see, as I already said, is whether, once we'll > have simplified it, and once it will get to enhance it (back), we could > collaborate with the RT-Xen people. > > They already have an EDF scheduler which supports multiple budgetting > algorithms, so I'm hoping that we can at least learn from their > experience, if not (and let's see why not) borrow/upstream some of their > code. > > If you think it would be useful, I'm up for setting up a call between > me, you, Sisu, and everyone hat is interested. Just let me know. > > Regards, > Dario > > -- > <> (Raistlin Majere) > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli > Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK) > > -- Sisu Xi, PhD Candidate http://www.cse.wustl.edu/~xis/ Department of Computer Science and Engineering Campus Box 1045 Washington University in St. Louis One Brookings Drive St. Louis, MO 63130 --f46d04389569f0a8da04f520b29c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi, Dario:

Thanks for the coordination!= It would be great if we can schedule a meeting to discuss this.
=
I am widely open today, this weekend, and next Monday.=C2=A0=
I am ccing Meng and Chong, who's my collaborator on the RT-Xen pro= ject to see if they are interested in the meeting.

Thanks again and I look forward to talking to you!
Sisu


On Fri,= Mar 21, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Dario Faggioli <dario.faggioli@citrix.c= om> wrote:
On ven, 2014-03-21 at 08:25 = -0400, Nate Studer wrote:
> On 3/21/2014 7:16 AM, Ian Campbell wrote:

> > If you intend in a future non-RFC version o= f this series to do something
> > like that then we can follow that path at that time.
>
> Thanks for the information Ian.
>
> This is the intention, so we would prefer the LIBXL_HAVE_NEW_SCHED_THI= NG path.
> It seems cleaner.
>
> We just wanted to make sure that there were no major objections to re-= purposing
> the sedf scheduler before we went too far down that path, and so far w= e have not
> seen anybody step up to defend the sedf scheduler.
>
Well, TBH, seeing someone standing up to defend it as it is now would=
have been very surprising, from my point of view. :-)

As I said, we really want something that is working, easier to maintain, extensible and more advanced, and I think you're putting efforts in the=
right direction" simplifying the current implementation is absolutely<= br> necessary, given its super-broken status.

So, unless someone starts screaming really soon, I'd say "go ahead= ".

The one thing I'd like to see, as I already said, is whether, once we&#= 39;ll
have simplified it, and once it will get to enhance it (back), we could
collaborate with the RT-Xen people.

They already have an EDF scheduler which supports multiple budgetting
algorithms, so I'm hoping that we can at least learn from their
experience, if not (and let's see why not) borrow/upstream some of thei= r
code.

If you think it would be useful, I'm up for setting up a call between me, you, Sisu, and everyone hat is interested. Just let me know.

Regards,
Dario

--
<<This happens because I choose it to happen!>> (Raistlin Majer= e)
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Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli
Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK)




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= Sisu Xi, PhD Candidate

http://www.cse.wustl.edu/~xis/
Department of Compute= r Science and Engineering
Campus Box 1045
Washington University in St. Louis
One Brookings Driv= e
St. Louis, MO 63130
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