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From: Chuck Lever III <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
To: "andreas-nagy@outlook.com" <andreas-nagy@outlook.com>
Cc: "crispyduck@outlook.at" <crispyduck@outlook.at>,
	Rick Macklem <rmacklem@uoguelph.ca>,
	Bruce Fields <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	Linux NFS Mailing List <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Problems with NFS4.1 on ESXi
Date: Thu, 5 May 2022 16:38:36 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <D267ABA2-A071-4406-A218-919DC7414DCF@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AM9P191MB1665FA51F62F82B006FD97168EC29@AM9P191MB1665.EURP191.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>



> On May 5, 2022, at 1:31 AM, andreas-nagy@outlook.com wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> was someone able to check the NFS3 vs NFS4.1 traces (https://easyupload.io/7bt624)? I was due to quarantine I was so far not able to test it against FreeBSD.

I don't see anything new in the NFSv4.1 trace from the above package.

The NFSv3 trace doesn't have any remarkable failures. But since the
NFSv3 protocol doesn't have a CLOSE operation, it shouldn't be
surprising that there is no failure there.

Seeing the FreeBSD behavior is the next step. I have a little time
today to audit code to see if there's anything obvious there. I will
have to stick with ext4 since I don't have any ZFS code here and you
said you were able to reproduce on an ext4 export.


> Would it maybe make any difference updating the Ubuntu based Linux kernel from 5.13 to 5.15?

I don't yet know enough about the issue to say whether it might
have been addressed between .13 and .15. So far the issue is not
familiar from recent code changes.


> Br
> Andreas
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Von: crispyduck@outlook.at <crispyduck@outlook.at>
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. April 2022 08:08
> An: Rick Macklem <rmacklem@uoguelph.ca>; J. Bruce Fields <bfields@fieldses.org>; linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>
> Cc: Chuck Lever III <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
> Betreff: AW: Problems with NFS4.1 on ESXi 
>  
> I tried again to reproduce the "sometimes working" case, but at the moment it always fails. No Idea why it in the past sometimes worked. 
> Why are this much lookups in the trace? Dont see this on other NFS clients.
>  
> The traces with nfs3 where it works and nfs41 where it always fails are here:
> https://easyupload.io/7bt624
> 
> Both from mount till start of vm import (testvm).
> 
> exportfs -v:
> /zfstank/sto1/ds110
>                <world>(async,wdelay,hide,crossmnt,no_subtree_check,fsid=74345722,mountpoint,sec=sys,rw,secure,no_root_squash,no_all_squash)
> 
> 
> I hope I can also do some tests against a FreeBSD server end of the week.
> 
> regards,
> Andreas
> 
> 
> 
> Von: Rick Macklem <rmacklem@uoguelph.ca>
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 24. April 2022 22:39
> An: J. Bruce Fields <bfields@fieldses.org>
> Cc: crispyduck@outlook.at <crispyduck@outlook.at>; Chuck Lever III <chuck.lever@oracle.com>; Linux NFS Mailing List <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>
> Betreff: Re: Problems with NFS4.1 on ESXi 
>  
> Rick Macklem <rmacklem@uoguelph.ca> wrote:
> [stuff snipped]
>> In FreeBSD, it actually hangs onto the parent's FH (verbatim), but mostly
>> so it can do Open/Claim_NULLs for it. There is nothing in FreeBSD that
>> tries to subvert FH guessing.
> Oops, this is client side, not server side. (I forgot which hat I was wearing;-)
> The FreeBSD server does not keep track of parents.
> 
> rick
> 
> --b.

--
Chuck Lever




  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-05-05 16:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2022-04-21  4:55 ` Problems with NFS4.1 on ESXi Andreas Nagy
2022-04-21 14:58   ` Chuck Lever III
2022-04-21 15:30     ` AW: " crispyduck
2022-04-21 16:40       ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]         ` <AM9P191MB16654F5B7541CD1E489D75608EF49@AM9P191MB1665.EURP191.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
2022-04-21 18:41           ` crispyduck
2022-04-21 18:54         ` J. Bruce Fields
2022-04-21 23:52           ` Rick Macklem
2022-04-21 23:58             ` Rick Macklem
2022-04-22 14:29             ` Chuck Lever III
2022-04-22 14:59               ` AW: " crispyduck
2022-04-22 15:02                 ` Chuck Lever III
2022-04-22 22:58               ` Rick Macklem
2022-04-22 15:15             ` J. Bruce Fields
2022-04-22 18:43               ` AW: " crispyduck
2022-04-22 23:03               ` Rick Macklem
2022-04-24 15:07                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2022-04-24 20:36                   ` Rick Macklem
2022-04-24 20:39                     ` Rick Macklem
2022-04-25  9:00                       ` AW: " crispyduck
2022-04-27  6:08                         ` crispyduck
2022-05-05  5:31                           ` andreas-nagy
2022-05-05 14:19                             ` Rick Macklem
2022-05-05 16:38                             ` Chuck Lever III [this message]
2022-05-07  1:53                               ` Chuck Lever III
2022-04-22 14:23           ` Olga Kornievskaia

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