Re: Fw: RE: Telemetry Streaming from OpenBMC

* Re: Fw: RE: Telemetry Streaming from OpenBMC
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@ 2019-10-22 18:47 ` Justin Thaler
  2019-10-23  8:59   ` Matuszczak, Piotr
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From: Justin Thaler @ 2019-10-22 18:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: piotr.matuszczak
  Cc: kunyi, openbmc, Paul.Vancil, neladk, gmills, viswha, rosedahl,
	vijaykhemka

> From:   "Matuszczak, Piotr" <piotr.matuszczak@intel.com>
> To:     'Justin Thaler' <thalerj@us.ibm.com>, "kunyi@google.com"
> <kunyi@google.com>, "vijaykhemka@fb.com" <vijaykhemka@fb.com>, "OpenBMC
> Maillist" <openbmc@lists.ozlabs.org>, "Paul.Vancil@dell.com"
> <Paul.Vancil@dell.com>, "neladk@microsoft.com" <neladk@microsoft.com>,
> "gmills@linux.vnet.ibm.com" <gmills@linux.vnet.ibm.com>, vishwa
> <vishwa@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> Cc:     Todd Rosedahl <rosedahl@us.ibm.com>
> Date:   10/01/2019 11:10 AM
> Subject:        [EXTERNAL] RE: Telemetry Streaming from OpenBMC
> 
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Sorry for the late response. For now streaming shall be supported by the
> Redfish telemetry service. Every metric report can be configured to be
> pushed out as the redfish event. Currently this is work in progress.

Thanks for the response! I guess I'm still a bit confused about the 
telemetry service in general. If I wanted to get an update on all metric 
sensors at a rate of 1/s I think I should do the following at a high level.

1. Create a metric report. This report should defined against the 
appropriate sensors, with a sample rate set to 1/s, and a duration of 1s?

2. Push the telemetry report to the BMC using RedFish.

3. Create a new SSE subscription.

This is at least my very rudimentary understanding on the subject. I was 
hoping someone could add some clarity here, more specifically, how do I 
get continual updates after setting up the subscription? I do apologize 
as this isn't very clear to me, even after reading over the telemetry 
reports, telemetry service documentation from the DMTF, and the 
direction of this workgroup. I would greatly appreciate any help I can 
get as well!

Thanks,
Justin Thaler

> BR
> Piotr Matuszczak
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 8:19 PM
> To: kunyi@google.com; vijaykhemka@fb.com; OpenBMC Maillist
> <openbmc@lists.ozlabs.org>; Paul.Vancil@dell.com; neladk@microsoft.com;
> gmills@linux.vnet.ibm.com; vishwa <vishwa@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> Cc: Todd Rosedahl <rosedahl@us.ibm.com>
> Subject: Telemetry Streaming from OpenBMC
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I’m not sure if this should be a separate note or not. I've also not been
> able to join this workgroup, however all of my concerns appear to have
> been
> discussed. . I’ve started reviewing some of the telemetry conversation for
> openbmc, and have taken some time review the wiki and have also reviewed
> the
> document proposal. Based on my experience, there’s two core use cases:
> telemetry streams, and telemetry reports. The Reports are a collect and
> analyze later method, typically used for system profiling, job profiling,
> and analytics of data center usage over time.
> For the streams, these are being used to allow the data center to react to
> changes across the managed systems, like increasing water flow, cooling
> capacity, or power throttling systems to prevent over subscriptions on the
> data center’s power grid.
> 
> I’d like to ask about the streams since the report portion of things seems
> exceptionally well covered. With previous versions of openBMC I was able
> to
> leverage websockets to get updates on sensor values on change. This turned
> out to be pretty network efficient and is able to drive 1/s updates on all
> the sensors in a system. It doesn’t have an impact on other monitoring
> services either. That being said, I’ve been reading through the redfish
> telemetry and eventing services and was looking for some help and or
> guidance. For reference I was looking at this document
> https://www.dmtf.org/sites/default/files/standards/documents/DSP0266_1.6.0.p
> 
> df
> .
> 
> If I do subscribe using SSE and telemetry reports, it seems to be setup to
> get a full set of readings over time and only send when the report is
> complete. Can I use these reports to get updates every second? If I
> subscribe to an endpoint, I also seem to get the entire endpoint and I’m
> not
> sure if this would meet a goal of getting the large cluster (300
> systems) worth of updates at a data rate of less than 20 Mb/s. I would
> appreciate any advice on leveraging redfish standards to stream sensor
> readings for an OpenBMC system. If I'm not able to use redfish, I'd be
> happy
> to elaborate more on the websocket method I used with the phosphor
> webserver
> and discuss options for the current/future BMC versions leveraging bmcweb.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Justin Thaler
> Senior RAS Engineer
> 
> 
> 
> 

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