From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 02:19:19 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 02:19:19 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]:7329 "EHLO fencepost.gnu.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 02:19:17 -0500 From: Richard Stallman To: dpaun@rogers.com CC: lm@bitmover.com, acahalan@cs.uml.edu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-reply-to: <200301071118.41059.dpaun@rogers.com> Subject: Re: Nvidia and its choice to read the GPL "differently" Reply-to: rms@gnu.org References: <200301050802.h0582u4214558@saturn.cs.uml.edu> <20030106173705.GP1386@work.bitmover.com> <200301071118.41059.dpaun@rogers.com> Message-Id: Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 02:28:00 -0500 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org You are a smart guy. I think you'd agree with me that this particular battle (GNU/Linux) is lost. It's not a battle, and the outcome isn't binary. (See http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html.) The GNU/Linux campaign is partly successful and that's better than not at all. Bottom line is, the are only so many hours in a day. You have so many battles to fight, that would serve the community. All other work that we do is made less effective than it could have been because the public doesn't know what we've already done. The partial success of the GNU/Linux campaign partly reverses this. Calling the system "GNU/Linux" is very easy, and takes just seconds a day; that and using the term "free software" are the most efficient ways you can use your time to help us. situation, it must be clear even to you that things can't possibly go back, and all your doing is creating bad blood. Think about it. When we call the system "GNU/Linux" we are not insulting anyone. The bad blood is created by others, by the people who resent our saying this. There are two ways to look at this question: in terms of principle and in terms of practical effects. First, principle. When a majority assaults a minority for stating a truth that the majority wants forgotten, who is morally responsible? If you say that the unpopular minority "creates bad blood", you're blaming the victims of the intimidation campaign for resisting it; taking a stand that deliberately disregards the concept of justice. Second, practicalities. The people who are so attached to the idea of the "Linux" system that they would attack us for disagreeing with it are never going to help us much. They mostly don't share our values anyway. So we have nothing to lose. These discussions will never convince those people, but they do win support from others who read both sides and find that we have right on our side. So we have something to gain. All in all, what we are doing is both right and effective. We will continue.