From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755132AbYH2IKJ (ORCPT ); Fri, 29 Aug 2008 04:10:09 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751960AbYH2IJy (ORCPT ); Fri, 29 Aug 2008 04:09:54 -0400 Received: from fxip-0047f.externet.hu ([88.209.222.127]:58981 "EHLO pomaz-ex.szeredi.hu" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751186AbYH2IJx (ORCPT ); Fri, 29 Aug 2008 04:09:53 -0400 To: tj@kernel.org CC: bunk@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, greg@kroah.com, miklos@szeredi.hu, tiwai@suse.de, fuse-devel@lists.sourceforge.net In-reply-to: <48B7A48B.8020405@kernel.org> (message from Tejun Heo on Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:26:03 +0200) Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] OSS Proxy using CUSE References: <48B6F711.1040604@kernel.org> <20080828200120.GA16462@cs181140183.pp.htv.fi> <48B751DA.5090906@kernel.org> <20080829065026.GC16462@cs181140183.pp.htv.fi> <48B7A48B.8020405@kernel.org> Message-Id: From: Miklos Szeredi Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 10:09:51 +0200 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, 29 Aug 2008, Tejun Heo wrote: > Most major ones do, but there are programs and games which just haven't > fared off as well as more popular ones and thus just stopped being > updated and then there are commercial games which won't be updated in > any foreseeable future. There are reasons why something as brand new as > pulse comes with something like padsp. I have to agree with Tejun, there will always be old executables lying around and source code that nobody will bother updating that still use legacy interfaces. I have a handful of programs that are still OSS only (one of them, spectemu, being still popular enough to be in several major distros). I could update them to alsa, but most of them I use once or twice a year, it doesn't make sense. In all the world there are probably thousands of such apps, and porting each and every one to newer interfaces (if it could be done at all) would probably be a much bigger effort then implementing a backward compatibility layer for OSS. Miklos