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From: hpa@zytor.com
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	Tom Lendacky <Thomas.Lendacky@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/TSC: Use RDTSCP
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 12:48:49 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <F724A9C4-BA69-4713-B267-11547832F8FB@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181119204025.GL14688@zn.tnic>

On November 19, 2018 12:40:25 PM PST, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de> wrote:
>On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 12:17:35PM -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>> On 11/19/18 11:52 AM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>> > 
>> > I thought I benchmarked this on Intel at some point and found the
>> > LFENCE;RDTSC variant to be slightly faster.  But I believe you, so:
>> > 
>> > Acked-by: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
>> > 
>> 
>> As long as the difference isn't significant, the simplicity would
>seem to be a
>> win.
>
>Right, I think by simplicity you mean RDTSCP. :)
>
>Also in the sense that you have a single instruction which gives you
>that barrier of waiting for all older insns to retire before reading
>the
>TSC vs two where you don't necessarily know what happens on the uarch
>level. I mean, nothing probably happens but RDTSCP is still simpler :)
>
>Also, hpa, isn't LFENCE; RDTSC and RDTSCP equivalent on Intel? In the
>sense that RDTSCP microcode practically adds an LFENCE before reading
>the TSC?
>
>Because SDM says:
>
>"The RDTSCP instruction is not a serializing instruction, but it does
>wait until all previous instructions have executed and all previous
>loads are globally visible."
>
>which sounds pretty much like an LFENCE to me:
>
>"LFENCE does not execute until all prior instructions have completed
>locally, and no later instruction begins execution until LFENCE
>completes."

I don't know the exact sequence of fencing operations it is equivalent to, but it is probably something quite similar.
-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-19 20:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-19 18:45 [PATCH] x86/TSC: Use RDTSCP Borislav Petkov
2018-11-19 19:02 ` Lendacky, Thomas
2018-11-19 19:52 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-19 20:17   ` H. Peter Anvin
2018-11-19 20:40     ` Borislav Petkov
2018-11-19 20:48       ` hpa [this message]
2018-11-20  9:11 ` [tip:x86/timers] " tip-bot for Borislav Petkov
2018-11-23 20:03 ` [PATCH] " Guenter Roeck
2018-11-23 20:22   ` hpa
2018-11-23 20:44     ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-23 20:44   ` Borislav Petkov
2018-11-23 21:03     ` Guenter Roeck
2018-11-23 21:07       ` Borislav Petkov
2018-12-07 18:39         ` Borislav Petkov
2019-01-16 11:59 ` [tip:x86/alternatives] " tip-bot for Borislav Petkov

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