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Subject: Re: Domains (was: Migration to new gerrit server is coming)
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> On Apr 19, 2018, at 9:43 AM, Alexander Amelkin <a.amelkin@yadro.com> =
wrote:
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>=20
> 03.04.2018 18:30, Andrew Geissler wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 5:46 PM, Joel Stanley <joel@jms.id.au> wrote:
>>> Do we have plans to use the gerrit.openbmc.org domain instead?
>> In order to reduce what's changing with this first migration, I'll
>> keep the old name but yes, Brad got me in touch with someone from the
>> Linux Foundation and long term we'll be moving to something like
>> gerrit.openbmc.org.
> I'm kind of lost with all these domains=E2=80=A6

Understandable :-)

> I remember we have an ongoing effort to move all d-bus stuff from
> org.openbmc to xyz.openbmc-project.

In the early days of this project, org.openbmc was used for DBus naming. =
 At a
later date, we stumbled onto this in the DBus specification:

    Interface names should start with the reversed DNS domain name of =
the
    author of the interface (in lower-case), like interface names in =
Java.=20

but openbmc.org was not available.  So the effort to move all dbus names
from org-openbmc to xyz-openbmc_project was born.

Fast forward to today, and openbmc.org has been donated to the project
by the prior owner (thanks Facebook!)

> Now you're saying we'll be moving gerrit to openbmc.org=E2=80=A6

I=E2=80=99m not sure _moving_ is the correct word.  I=E2=80=99d guess =
that gerrit.openbmc_project.xyz
will be a CNAME for openbmc.org for some amount of time.  Right Andrew?

> What is the official domain for openbmc now?

What do we want it to be?  I=E2=80=99d vote for openbmc.org.  Unless =
someone
argues otherwise I think you can safely assume that openbmc.org is the
=E2=80=9Cofficial=E2=80=9D domain for this project.

> Are we going to move the d-bus stuff back to org.openbmc now?

If this is what people want I don=E2=80=99t see a problem with that.  =
But the
project will (eventually) own both domains, so the urgency goes down a
bit I feel.

> Personally, I would welcome that as I hate the .xyz TLD as it is
> meaningless and beside that has some not very nice connotation for any
> Russian speaker. I also think that short 'openbmc' is way more neat =
than
> 'openbmc-project'.
> Also, as openbmc-project.xyz is owned by Patrick Williams (as well as
> OpenBMC IANA PEN), and openbmc.org is owned by TLF, I'd say that we =
must
> go with openbmc.org everywhere.

We are in the process of transferring the xyz domain and the IANA PEN
from Patrick to TLF.  There isn=E2=80=99t any resistance on Patrick=E2=80=99=
s end, if
that makes anyone feel better.  It is just a matter of getting it done.=20=


> However, I'd like to know the official intention.

Have I answered this?

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> Alexander.
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