From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752598AbbLRGnx (ORCPT ); Fri, 18 Dec 2015 01:43:53 -0500 Received: from terminus.zytor.com ([198.137.202.10]:50900 "EHLO mail.zytor.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751907AbbLRGnw (ORCPT ); Fri, 18 Dec 2015 01:43:52 -0500 User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: References: <56736BD1.5080700@linux.intel.com> <5673750B.606@linux.intel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: Rethinking sigcontext's xfeatures slightly for PKRU's benefit? From: "H. Peter Anvin" Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 22:43:21 -0800 To: Andy Lutomirski , Dave Hansen CC: Oleg Nesterov , Thomas Gleixner , Ingo Molnar , Borislav Petkov , Brian Gerst , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" Message-ID: Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On December 17, 2015 9:29:21 PM PST, Andy Lutomirski wrote: >On Dec 17, 2015 6:53 PM, "Dave Hansen" >wrote: >> >> On 12/17/2015 06:32 PM, Andy Lutomirski wrote: >> > On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 6:13 PM, Dave Hansen > wrote: >> >> But what about the register state when delivering a signal? Don't >we >> >> set the registers to the init state? Do we need to preserve PKRU >state >> >> instead of init'ing it? The init state _is_ nice here because it >is >> >> permissive allows us to do something useful no matter what PKRU >gets set to. >> > >> > I think we leave the extended regs alone. Don't we? >> > >> > I think that, for most signals, we want to leave PKRU as is, >> > especially for things that aren't SIGSEGV. For SIGSEGV, maybe we >want >> > an option to reset PKRU on delivery (and then set the flag to >restore >> > on return?). >> >> Is there some precedent for doing the state differently for different >> signals? > >Yes, to a very limited extent: SA_ONSTACK. > >> >> >> Well, the signal handler isn't necessarily going to clobber it, >but the >> >> delivery code already clobbers it when going to the init state. >> > >> > Can you point to that code? >> >> handle_signal() -> fpu__clear() >> >> The comment around it says: >> >> "Ensure the signal handler starts with the new fpu state." >> > >You win this round :) > >So maybe we should have a mask of xfeatures that aren't cleared on >signal delivery (e.g. PKRU, perhaps) and that are, by default, >preserved across signal returns. > >> >>> We have _fpx_sw_bytes.xfeatures and _xstate._header.xfeatures. >They >> >>> appear to do more or less the same thing. >> >> >> >> I thought the _fpx_sw_bytes were only for 32-bit (or >FXSAVE/FXRSTOR?). >> > >> > I thought they were everywhere. fpu/signal.c looks that way to me. > I >> > could be missing something -- this code isn't the most >straightforward >> > in the world. >> >> I think there's some extra space on the ia32 frame for this stuff, >but >> some clarity from someone who knows the history would be appreciated. >> >> >> Not a huge deal, but something we want to think about, especially >as it >> >> pertains to the init/modified optimizations. >> > >> > Fair point. FWIW, I don't think that sigreturn performance matters >> > all that much, so if we inadvertently lose some of the >optimizations, >> > it may not be the end of the world. >> >> Once we lose the init optimization, we're sunk for good. We never >get >> it back until we restore the init state again. Having it in the init >> state can save writing the state at XSAVE time, which can now save up >to >> ~2k of writes at each context switch. >> >> I'm sure we can preserve it, we just need to be _careful_. > >Right. > >How much does XSAVEOPT help here? IOW if we're careful to save to the >same place we restored from and we don't modify the state in the mean >time, how much of the time do we save? In the best case, I guess we >save the memory writes but not the reads? > >--Andy I find the notion of PKRU not being initialized at the entry to a signal handler a bit odd. Saving/restoring it seems like the right thing to me. What am I missing? -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse brevity and formatting.