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From: "David Schwartz" <davids@webmaster.com>
To: "Adrian Bunk" <bunk@fs.tum.de>,
	"Randolph Bentson" <bentson@holmsjoen.com>
Cc: "Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: Linksys WRT54G and the GPL
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 13:12:59 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <MDEHLPKNGKAHNMBLJOLKIEJKDJAA.davids@webmaster.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030611192232.GB16164@fs.tum.de>


> On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 10:39:36AM -0700, Randolph Bentson wrote:

> >...
> > If the distributor elects to distribute the object code or executable
> > form under clause 3b, one might reasonably argue that the distributor
> > need only distribute the source to those third parties in possession
> > of the written offer which must be included.  Others may argue that
> >...

> "Accompany it with a written offer, ..., to give any third party, ..., a
> complete machine-readable copy of the corresponding source code..."
>
> This is non-ambiguous. You might _not_ "reasonably argue" about it, the
> "any third party" leaves no room for other interpretations.
>
> > Randolph Bentson
>
> cu
> Adrian

	Think about this logically. Suppose a company releases a product and
(maybe) accompanies it with such a written offer (I mean, how could you know
for sure if you hadn't seen it?). You call the company up to try to enforce
the offer. They say, "What offer?" You say, "the written offer that
accompanied some copies of your product." You can't cite the text of the
written offer, you can't specify any specific person they made the offer to.

	It is totally reasonable to construe "any third party" to mean that the
offer can't specify that it's only vaild for certain particular individuals.
In fact, I always understood simply to mean that you couldn't limit the
offer to only the purchaser (assuming the product was sold).

	What would the purpose be of a "written offer" (and why would you have to
"accompany" the object code with it?) if not that the offer is an
enforceable 'coupon'? Why wouldn't the GPL just say that you have to
"provide any third party with a complete machine-readable copy of the
corresponding source code". Why specify a written offer if it just meant
that you had to offer it?

	DS



  reply	other threads:[~2003-06-11 19:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-06-08  2:41 Linksys WRT54G and the GPL Andrew Miklas
2003-06-08 11:54 ` Dave Jones
2003-06-08 14:23   ` Alan Cox
2003-06-08 18:13   ` uaca
2003-06-08 19:44 ` Colm MacCárthaigh
2003-06-08 20:14   ` Jörn Engel
2003-06-08 21:47   ` Russell King
2003-06-09 22:37   ` Daniel Phillips
2003-06-10 22:47     ` Andrew Miklas
2003-06-11 12:42       ` Alan Cox
2003-06-11 14:28       ` Kent Borg
2003-06-09  5:22 ` Frank Cusack
     [not found]   ` <20030609053010$504e@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-06-09  8:28     ` Florian Weimer
2003-06-09 14:09   ` Horst von Brand
2003-06-09 18:23   ` Alan Cox
2003-06-09 21:33     ` Adrian Bunk
2003-06-09 21:50       ` David Schwartz
2003-06-09 22:21         ` Adrian Bunk
2003-06-10 20:17           ` Randolph Bentson
2003-06-11 15:38             ` Adrian Bunk
2003-06-11 17:39               ` Randolph Bentson
2003-06-11 19:22                 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-06-11 20:12                   ` David Schwartz [this message]
2003-06-11 20:31                     ` "any third party" (Re: Linksys WRT54G and the GPL) Filip Van Raemdonck
2003-06-11 20:51                       ` Eli Carter
2003-06-09  5:32 ` Linksys WRT54G and the GPL David Schwartz
2003-06-09  5:47   ` Frank Cusack
2003-06-09 16:53     ` David Schwartz
2003-06-09 18:25     ` Alan Cox
2003-06-09 21:37     ` Adrian Bunk
2003-06-08  3:13 Brad Chapman
2003-06-08 16:35 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-06-08  3:53 Erik Andersen
2003-06-08 10:08 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-06-08 12:01   ` Christian Ullrich
2003-06-08 13:52     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2003-06-08 14:05       ` Marcus Metzler
2003-06-08 16:49       ` Adrian Bunk
2003-06-08 17:00         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2003-06-08 20:41 greendisease
2003-06-08 21:08 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-06-08 21:23   ` Jack Aboutboul
2003-06-08 21:50   ` Russell King
2003-06-08 22:48     ` Davide Libenzi
2003-06-08 20:57 Peter Westwood
2003-06-08 21:52 ` Russell King
2003-06-08 23:18 ` bill-linuxkernel20030609
2003-06-09  0:19 ` Oliver M. Bolzer
2003-06-09  0:31   ` Jeff
2003-06-10 20:43   ` Michael Neuffer
2003-06-08 23:25 Hakan Lennestal
2003-06-08 23:55 ` Martin List-Petersen
2003-06-09  8:47   ` Hakan Lennestal
2003-06-08 23:35 Erik Andersen
2003-06-09  0:09 ` Paul Jakma
2003-06-09  1:11   ` Erik Andersen
2003-06-09  0:05 Erik Andersen
2003-06-09  3:39 ` John Shifflett
2003-06-09 18:26   ` Alan Cox
2003-06-09  3:47 Russ Dill
2003-06-09  8:04 ` Russell King
2003-06-09 13:13 Downing, Thomas
2003-06-09 16:49 ` Martin List-Petersen
2003-06-10  4:11 Russ Dill
2003-07-18 23:48 root
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