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From: Thorsten Glaser <tg@mirbsd.org>
To: linux-man@vger.kernel.org, libbsd@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [IDEA] New pages for types: structs and typedfefs
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2020 19:54:46 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.BSM.4.64L.2009231950540.18540@herc.mirbsd.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKgNAkizCjN9m0T3m9ATqHVDNyK_m5uSG2+_jVSEsT12UMLzxw@mail.gmail.com>

Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) dixit:

>[Thorsten, I have removed you from the CC because I get persistent
>bounce messages whenever I send you mail. Hopefully you see this reply
>via the list.]

(I’m doing the same, Googlemail doesn’t work with standard eMail.)

>Obviously, it is a gray area, but there's a significant difference
>between quoting a sentence or three from the standard and
>reproducing/redistributing the standard.

True, but taking quotes is severely restricted at least in Germany.
That being said, if the quoted parts are trivial enough to not fall
under copyright or if copyright exemption due to interop applies,
it won’t be a problem… but better try to avoid it altogether.

>> I know that some POSIX documents were re-released under a free-ish
>> licence some time ago for inclusion into some manual pages, but I
>> don’t have a reference for that and don’t know the scope.
>
>Yes:
>https://lwn.net/Articles/581858/

Ah, great!

>While I'm pretty sure they would allow this without problem, I'm
>wondering if it's worth the effort. Ideally, we'd have text written by
>someone in their own words. Reproducing the text of the standard has
>limited value, since people can in any case consult the standard
>directly.

Right.

>Alex, how about we just go much simpler, saying something like:
>
>[[
>This type represents floating-point status flags; for further details
>see fenv(3).
>]]

Yes, referencing the already-existing “donated” pages would work
the best.

Thanks!

bye,
//mirabilos
-- 
Stéphane, I actually don’t block Googlemail, they’re just too utterly
stupid to successfully deliver to me (or anyone else using Greylisting
and not whitelisting their ranges). Same for a few other providers such
as Hotmail.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-23 19:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-11 12:47 [IDEA] New pages for types: structs and typedfefs Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-12  6:33 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-12  8:59   ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-12  9:26     ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-13 12:01     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-13 12:53       ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-13 20:20         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-13 21:29           ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-14  0:20             ` [RFC v1] system_data_types.7: Draft (and links to it: <type>.3) Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-14 10:37               ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-14 10:55                 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-22 20:21             ` [IDEA] New pages for types: structs and typedfefs Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-22 20:38               ` Thorsten Glaser
2020-09-23  8:36                 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-23 19:54                   ` Thorsten Glaser [this message]
2020-09-14  9:19       ` Jakub Wilk
2020-09-14  9:49         ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-18  2:16       ` Guillem Jover
2020-09-19  8:45         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-14 10:22 ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-14 14:03   ` [RFC v2] system_data_types.7: Draft v2 Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-14 15:00     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-14 15:52       ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-14 19:33         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-15  0:47   ` [RFC v3] sigval.3, ssize_t.3, suseconds_t.3, time_t.3, timer_t.3, timespec.3, timeval.3, system_data_types.7: Document system types (draft v3) Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-15  6:22     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-15 13:33   ` [RFC v4] system_data_types.7: Document sigval, ssize_t, suseconds_t, time_t, timer_t, timespec & timeval Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-15 21:30     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-16  0:59       ` Thorsten Glaser
2020-09-16  8:03         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-16 10:06           ` Andries E. Brouwer
2020-09-16 11:00             ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-16 10:52   ` [RFC v5] system_data_types.7: Document types: sigval, ssize_t, suseconds_t, time_t, timer_t, timespec, timeval Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-16 10:56     ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-16 11:01   ` [RFC v6] " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-16 19:24     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-16 19:51       ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-16 21:32         ` Thorsten Glaser
2020-09-17  9:23           ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-17 10:27         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-17 10:42   ` [PATCH v7 0/8] Document system data types Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-17 21:05     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-17 21:16       ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-17 10:42   ` [PATCH v7 1/8] system_data_types.7: Document types: sigval, ssize_t, suseconds_t, time_t, timer_t, timespec, timeval Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-17 10:43   ` [PATCH v7 2/8] sigval.3: Add link page Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-17 10:43   ` [PATCH v7 3/8] ssize_t.3: " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-17 10:43   ` [PATCH v7 4/8] suseconds_t.3: " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-17 10:43   ` [PATCH v7 5/8] time_t.3: " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-17 10:43   ` [PATCH v7 6/8] timer_t.3: " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-17 10:43   ` [PATCH v7 7/8] timespec.3: " Alejandro Colomar
2020-09-17 10:43   ` [PATCH v7 8/8] timeval.3: " Alejandro Colomar

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