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From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: Jun Sun <jsun@mvista.com>
Cc: Ralf Baechle <ralf@linux-mips.org>,
	Linux/MIPS Development <linux-mips@linux-mips.org>
Subject: Re: CVS Update@-mips.org: linux
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 20:56:48 +0200 (MEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0306132052290.14094-100000@vervain.sonytel.be> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030613103340.D9837@mvista.com>

On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, Jun Sun wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 04:30:49PM +0200, Ralf Baechle wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 04:19:46PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> > > Is this really a good idea? You moved board-specific code (`everything related
> > > to one board in a single dir') into one directory? So for a new port, you now
> > > have to add a arch/mips/<board>/ directory, and add files to arch/mips/pci/.
> > > 
> > > I agree that extracting common parts and cleaning up the code is a good idea,
> > > though.
> > 
> > It's just toooo much to do in one step, expect forther moving of code
> > to get everything to it's final place.  The amount of code that was
> > being duplicated was just insane and trying to sort boards by chipset
> > was part of the evil.  So MIPS's boards may come with one of several
> > PCI chipsets and the Lasat systems may have either a NEC Nile4 or a
> > Galileo 64120 chipset.  Result?  Each was duplicating the code to support
> > both chipsets into it's arch/mips/foo/ code.  Similar things with code
> > to support various firmware such as PMON etc.
> > 
> > Anyway, suggestions welcome,
> 
> Ralf and I chatted a little before the change.  I think this _may_ be
> a good thing.  It does not hurt to give it whirl first.
> 
> I was trying to promote chipset based grouping, like gt64120/ or ddb5xxx/, 
> but apparently not everybody likes that.  People are still going with 
> company or machine based grouping, which makes chipset code sharing impossible.
> 
> I also realize that chipset based grouping (and sharing) requires more
> design and synchronization between developers, and thus probably harder
> to do.  So in that sense, arch/mips/pci, as a less restrictive mechnism
> for sharing, might work better.
> 
> So I like to view arch/mips/pci as some PCI library routines for 
> chipsets instead of another place for board-specific code to live.

That's fine!  I just didn't realize there was that much chipset sharing between
the different boards. E.g. for Vr41xx, all board code is already in subdirs
within the vr41xx directory.

So in the future we may see something like this:

  arch/mips/chipset1/...
           /chipset2/...
	   /...
	   /board1/...
	   /board2/...

where the board* directories contain the glue code for the specific boards?

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

						Geert

--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
							    -- Linus Torvalds

  reply	other threads:[~2003-06-13 18:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 143+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20030613135835Z8225250-1272+2544@linux-mips.org>
2003-06-13 14:19 ` CVS Update@-mips.org: linux Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-06-13 14:30   ` Ralf Baechle
2003-06-13 17:33     ` Jun Sun
2003-06-13 18:56       ` Geert Uytterhoeven [this message]
2003-06-13 20:28         ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-06-13 21:00           ` Dan Malek
2003-06-13 21:44             ` Jun Sun
2003-06-13 23:23               ` Ralf Baechle
2003-06-14 18:55                 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-06-14 18:48             ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-06-13 21:45           ` Jun Sun
     [not found] <20041218022359Z8225198-1751+3809@linux-mips.org>
2004-12-18 21:32 ` Steven J. Hill
2004-12-18 22:28   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
     [not found] <20041217205625Z8225073-1751+3779@linux-mips.org>
2004-12-18  1:04 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
     [not found] <20041216030425Z8225321-1751+3720@linux-mips.org>
2004-12-16  3:13 ` Steven J. Hill
2004-12-16  3:52 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
     [not found] <20041209220930Z8225298-1751+3401@linux-mips.org>
2004-12-09 22:21 ` Manish Lachwani
     [not found] <20041127061929Z8224786-1751+2584@linux-mips.org>
2004-11-27 22:05 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2004-11-27 23:15   ` Ralf Baechle
2004-11-28  2:01     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2004-11-28 11:53       ` Ralf Baechle
2004-11-28 17:44         ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2004-11-28 17:57           ` Ralf Baechle
2004-11-29 14:51         ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
     [not found] <20041020023431Z98555-1751+175@linux-mips.org>
2004-10-20 16:58 ` Thomas Koeller
2004-10-21  9:19   ` Thomas Koeller
2004-10-21 13:03     ` Ralf Baechle
2004-10-21 15:56       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
     [not found] <20040820120223Z8225206-1530+8785@linux-mips.org>
2004-08-23  9:29 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2004-08-23  9:54   ` Kumba
2004-08-23 10:58     ` Ralf Baechle
2004-08-23 10:24   ` Ralf Baechle
2004-08-23 11:40     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
     [not found] <20040811202903Z8225206-1530+8297@linux-mips.org>
2004-08-11 20:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-05-19 17:03 Manish Lachwani
     [not found] <20040519162924Z8225564-1530+2150@linux-mips.org>
2004-05-19 16:43 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
     [not found] <20040420163230Z8225288-1530+99@linux-mips.org>
2004-04-20 17:51 ` Jun Sun
2004-04-20 20:11   ` Ralf Baechle
2004-04-20 20:20     ` Pete Popov
2004-04-20 22:31     ` Jun Sun
2004-04-21  8:55       ` Gleb O. Raiko
2004-04-21 14:11       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2004-04-21 17:20         ` Jun Sun
2004-04-21 18:04           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
     [not found] <20040322200826Z8225300-9616+4225@linux-mips.org>
2004-03-23 12:44 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
     [not found] <20040317153023Z8225229-9616+3963@linux-mips.org>
2004-03-17 15:37 ` freshy98
     [not found] <20040315205101Z8225248-9616+3861@linux-mips.org>
2004-03-16  4:11 ` Yoichi Yuasa
     [not found] <20040303034310Z8225905-9616+2989@linux-mips.org>
2004-03-03  4:09 ` Ralf Baechle
     [not found] <20040208143438Z8224987-9616+1909@linux-mips.org>
2004-02-08 14:36 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-02-08 14:40   ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found] <20040202141939Z8225226-9616+1555@linux-mips.org>
2004-02-02 15:13 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2004-02-02 15:23   ` Ralf Baechle
2004-02-03 15:30     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2004-02-03 15:49       ` Ralf Baechle
2004-02-03 16:04         ` Maciej W. Rozycki
     [not found] <20040123165755Z8225342-9616+749@linux-mips.org>
2004-01-23 17:03 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
     [not found] <20040123142002Z8225342-9616+728@linux-mips.org>
2004-01-23 16:50 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
     [not found] <20040115062800Z8225198-9616+139@linux-mips.org>
2004-01-15  9:39 ` Ralf Baechle
     [not found] <20040113080926Z8225270-16706+2387@linux-mips.org>
2004-01-13 17:22 ` Dan Aizenstros
2004-01-14 15:25   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2004-01-14 17:34     ` Pete Popov
     [not found] <20031124151816Z8225418-16706+435@linux-mips.org>
2003-11-24 15:23 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
     [not found] <20031103231010Z8225443-1272+8723@linux-mips.org>
2003-11-04 18:48 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-11-04 18:48   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
     [not found] <20031013142637Z8225419-1272+7775@linux-mips.org>
     [not found] ` <Pine.GSO.3.96.1031014114452.17028B-100000@delta.ds2.pg.gda.pl>
2003-10-14 13:28   ` Ralf Baechle
2003-10-15 14:23     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
     [not found] <20031009160717Z8225587-1272+7472@linux-mips.org>
2003-10-10 18:56 ` Kip Walker
2003-10-10 19:03   ` Kip Walker
2003-10-11  7:27     ` Ralf Baechle
2003-10-14  9:28   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
     [not found] <20030909113150Z8225348-1272+5180@linux-mips.org>
2003-09-09 13:40 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-09-10  8:51   ` Ralf Baechle
     [not found] <20030825170001Z8225388-1272+4466@linux-mips.org>
2003-08-25 17:18 ` Ralf Baechle
     [not found] <20030729120925Z8225214-1272+3844@linux-mips.org>
2003-07-29 12:20 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
     [not found] <20030722005641Z8225235-1272+3651@linux-mips.org>
2003-07-22  1:22 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
     [not found] <20030720230140Z8224861-1272+3549@linux-mips.org>
2003-07-21 10:49 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-07-21 12:12   ` Kevin D. Kissell
2003-07-21 12:12     ` Kevin D. Kissell
2003-07-21 14:44     ` Ralf Baechle
2003-07-21 15:50     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-07-21 18:20       ` Keith M Wesolowski
2003-07-22 19:39         ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-07-22 21:21           ` Ralf Baechle
2003-07-22 21:37             ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-07-22 21:47               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-07-22 22:51                 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-07-30  2:12                   ` Ralf Baechle
2003-07-30  7:47                     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-07-30 14:07                       ` Ralf Baechle
2003-07-30  3:16               ` Ralf Baechle
2003-07-30  7:55                 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-07-30 14:05                   ` Ralf Baechle
2003-07-21 21:14       ` Ralf Baechle
2003-07-22 19:40         ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-07-21 14:42   ` Ralf Baechle
     [not found] <20030716010829Z8224802-1272+3435@linux-mips.org>
2003-07-16  1:17 ` Ralf Baechle
     [not found] <20030627191204Z8225311-1272+2885@linux-mips.org>
2003-06-27 19:46 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-06-27 20:32   ` Kip Walker
2003-06-27 20:48     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
     [not found] <20030624033916Z8224827-1272+2821@linux-mips.org>
2003-06-24  9:31 ` Ralf Baechle
2003-06-24 17:51   ` Pete Popov
2003-06-24 21:10     ` Ralf Baechle
     [not found] <20030615004718Z8225220-1272+2582@linux-mips.org>
2003-06-16  1:19 ` Atsushi Nemoto
2003-06-16  1:42   ` Atsushi Nemoto
2003-06-16  1:58     ` Atsushi Nemoto
     [not found] <20030615135712Z8225205-1272+2604@linux-mips.org>
2003-06-15 15:18 ` ilya
     [not found] <20030605182419Z8224802-1272+2270@linux-mips.org>
2003-06-05 18:42 ` Guido Guenther
2003-06-05 19:45   ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-06-05 20:12     ` Ralf Baechle
2003-06-09 11:12 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-06-09 11:46   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
     [not found] <20030601120750Z8225197-1272+2136@linux-mips.org>
2003-06-01 14:25 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-06-01 15:56   ` Ralf Baechle
2003-06-01 16:10     ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
     [not found] <20030516221926Z8225233-1272+1964@linux-mips.org>
2003-05-16 22:27 ` Thiemo Seufer
2003-05-17 16:13   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
     [not found] <20030427233451Z8225245-1272+1630@linux-mips.org>
2003-04-30  8:55 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
     [not found] <20030424114755Z8225208-1272+1554@linux-mips.org>
2003-04-28 10:25 ` Atsushi Nemoto
2003-04-28 11:27   ` Ralf Baechle
     [not found] <20030421125733Z8225073-1272+1478@linux-mips.org>
2003-04-21 16:00 ` Ralf Baechle
     [not found] <20030412205002Z8225201-1272+1267@linux-mips.org>
2003-04-14  1:05 ` Wayne Chen
2003-04-14  1:05   ` Wayne Chen
     [not found] <20030402120316Z8225232-1272+1120@linux-mips.org>
2003-04-13 15:22 ` Karsten Merker
2003-04-14 11:57   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-04-14 15:55     ` Ralf Baechle
     [not found] <20030403133610Z8225197-1272+1139@linux-mips.org>
2003-04-03 14:11 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-04-03 14:24   ` Ralf Baechle
2003-04-03 14:48     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-04-03 15:42       ` Ralf Baechle
2003-04-03 16:27         ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-04-03 16:31           ` Dominic Sweetman
2003-04-03 16:47             ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-04-03 22:55               ` Ralf Baechle
2003-04-03 14:51     ` Juan Quintela
     [not found] <20030306011121Z8225204-1272+770@linux-mips.org>
2003-03-26 16:52 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
     [not found] <20030220194640Z8225262-1272+600@linux-mips.org>
2003-02-21 12:32 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-02-21 20:22   ` Kip Walker
2003-02-21 20:50     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
     [not found] <20030216062530Z8224847-1272+556@linux-mips.org>
2003-02-17 13:46 ` Ralf Baechle
2003-02-17 19:38   ` Pete Popov
     [not found] <20030126173616Z8225206-1272+297@linux-mips.org>
2003-01-27  6:28 ` Ralf Baechle
2003-01-27 12:04   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
     [not found] <20021102200215Z1123906-9213+801@linux-mips.org>
2002-11-02 20:12 ` Geert Uytterhoeven

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