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From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>, Hal Duston <hald@sound.net>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Olaf Titz <olaf@bigred.inka.de>
Subject: Re: several messages
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 11:46:13 -0500 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.1030127113639.26552A-100000@gatekeeper.tmr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10301221816580.22843-100000@sound.net>

On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, David Woodhouse wrote:

> 
> davidsen@tmr.com said:
> >  `uname -r` is the kernel version of the running kernel. It is NOT by
> > magic the kernel version of the kernel you are building... 
> 
> Er, yes. And what's your point? 
> 
> There is _no_ magic that will find the kernel you want to build against
> today without any input from you. Using the build tree for the
> currently-running kernel, if installed in the standard place, is as good a
> default as any. Of course you should be permitted to override that default.

You make my point for me, there is no magic, and when building a module it
should require that the directory be specified by either a command line
option (as noted below) or by being built as part of a source tree. There
*is* no good default in that particular case.


On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, Hal Duston wrote:

> I use "INSTALL_MOD_PATH=put/the/modules/here/instead/of/lib/modules" in my
> .profile or whatever in order to drop the modules into another directory
> at "make modules_install" time.  Is this one of the things folks are
> talking about?

Related for sure, the point I was making was that there is no good default
place to put modules built outside a kernel source tree (and probably also
when built for multiple kernels). I was suggesting that the module tree of
the running kernel might be a really poor choice. I don't think I was
clear in my first post, I was not suggesting a better default, I was
suggesting that any default is likely to bite.

I'm not unhappy that Mr. Woodhouse disagrees, I just think he missed my
point the first time and I'm trying to clarify.

-- 
bill davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
  CTO, TMR Associates, Inc
Doing interesting things with little computers since 1979.


  reply	other threads:[~2003-01-27 16:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-01-23  0:20 ANN: LKMB (Linux Kernel Module Builder) version 0.1.16 Hal Duston
2003-01-27 16:46 ` Bill Davidsen [this message]
2003-01-27 16:59   ` several messages David Woodhouse
2003-04-22 10:34 [patch] HT scheduler, sched-2.5.68-A9 Ingo Molnar
2003-04-22 22:16 ` several messages Bill Davidsen
2003-04-22 23:38   ` Rick Lindsley
2003-04-23  9:17     ` Ingo Molnar
2004-05-11  8:45 2.6.6-rc3-mm2 (4KSTACK) Helge Hafting
2004-05-11 17:59 ` several messages Bill Davidsen
2005-05-04 17:31 ata over ethernet question Maciej Soltysiak
2005-05-04 19:48 ` David Hollis
2005-05-04 21:17   ` Re[2]: " Maciej Soltysiak
2005-05-05 15:09     ` David Hollis
2005-05-07 15:05       ` Sander
2005-05-10 22:00         ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2005-05-11  8:56           ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-05-11 21:26             ` several messages Guennadi Liakhovetski
2005-05-12  2:16               ` Ming Zhang
2005-05-12 18:32                 ` Dmitry Yusupov
2005-05-13  8:12                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-05-13 15:04                     ` Dmitry Yusupov
2005-05-13 15:07                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-05-13 15:38                         ` Dmitry Yusupov
2005-05-12 10:17               ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2006-04-11 17:33 Linux 2.6.16.4 Greg KH
2006-04-11 19:04 ` several messages Jan Engelhardt
2006-04-11 19:20   ` Boris B. Zhmurov
2006-04-11 20:30   ` Greg KH
2006-04-11 23:46     ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-04-12  0:36     ` Nix
2006-09-26 18:51 Long sleep with i_mutex in xfs_flush_device(), affects NFS service Stephane Doyon
2006-09-27 11:33 ` Shailendra Tripathi
2006-10-02 14:45   ` Stephane Doyon
2006-10-02 22:30     ` David Chinner
2006-10-03 13:39       ` several messages Stephane Doyon
2006-10-03 13:39         ` Stephane Doyon
2006-10-03 16:40         ` Trond Myklebust
2006-10-03 16:40           ` Trond Myklebust
2006-10-05 15:39           ` Stephane Doyon
2006-10-05 15:39             ` Stephane Doyon
2006-10-06  0:33             ` David Chinner
2006-10-06  0:33               ` David Chinner
2006-10-06 13:25               ` Stephane Doyon
2006-10-06 13:25                 ` Stephane Doyon
2006-10-05  8:30         ` David Chinner
2006-10-05  8:30           ` David Chinner
2006-10-05 16:33           ` Stephane Doyon
2006-10-05 16:33             ` Stephane Doyon
2006-10-05 23:29             ` David Chinner
2006-10-05 23:29               ` David Chinner
2006-10-06 13:03               ` Stephane Doyon
2006-10-06 13:03                 ` Stephane Doyon
     [not found] <200702211929.17203.david-b@pacbell.net>
2007-02-22  3:50 ` [patch 6/6] rtc suspend()/resume() restores system clock David Brownell
2007-02-22 22:58   ` several messages Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-02-22 22:58     ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-02-22 22:58     ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-02-23  1:15     ` David Brownell
2007-02-23  1:15       ` David Brownell
2007-02-23  1:15       ` David Brownell
2007-02-23 11:17     ` Johannes Berg
2007-02-23 11:17       ` Johannes Berg
2007-02-23 11:17       ` Johannes Berg
     [not found] <9E397A467F4DB34884A1FD0D5D27CF43018903F96E@msxaoa4.twosigma.com>
2008-06-12 16:54 ` Benjamin L. Shi
2008-10-19 14:15 [PATCH 1/2] HID: add hid_type Jiri Slaby
2008-10-19 14:15 ` [PATCH 2/2] HID: fix appletouch regression Jiri Slaby
2008-10-19 19:40   ` several messages Jiri Kosina
2008-10-19 20:06     ` Justin Mattock
2008-10-19 20:06       ` Justin Mattock
2008-10-19 22:09     ` Jiri Slaby
2008-11-26 14:33 [PATCH 0/1] HID: hid_apple is not used for apple alu wireless keyboards Jan Scholz
2008-11-26 14:33 ` [PATCH 1/1] HID: Apple alu wireless keyboards are bluetooth devices Jan Scholz
2008-11-26 14:54   ` Jiri Kosina
2008-11-26 15:17     ` Jan Scholz
2008-11-26 15:33       ` Jiri Kosina
2008-11-26 21:06         ` Tobias Müller
2008-11-27  0:57           ` several messages Jiri Kosina
2009-02-09 20:57 [PATCH] libxtables: Introduce global params structuring jamal
2009-02-09 21:04 ` several messages Jan Engelhardt
2009-02-09 21:27   ` jamal
2009-02-09 21:44     ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-09-06 14:16 Layla 3G does not recover from ACPI Suspend Mark Hills
2009-09-08 19:32 ` Giuliano Pochini
2009-09-08 22:56   ` several messages Mark Hills
2010-07-11 15:06 [PATCHv2] netfilter: add CHECKSUM target Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-11 15:14 ` [PATCHv3] extensions: libxt_CHECKSUM extension Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-15  9:39   ` Patrick McHardy
2010-07-15 10:17     ` several messages Jan Engelhardt
2014-07-03  5:02 [RFC PATCH v4] ARM: EXYNOS: Use MCPM call-backs to support S2R on Exynos5420 Abhilash Kesavan
2014-07-03 14:46 ` [PATCH v5] " Abhilash Kesavan
2014-07-03 15:45   ` several messages Nicolas Pitre
2014-07-03 15:45     ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-07-03 16:19     ` Abhilash Kesavan
2014-07-03 16:19       ` Abhilash Kesavan
2014-07-03 19:00       ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-07-03 19:00         ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-07-03 20:00         ` Abhilash Kesavan
2014-07-03 20:00           ` Abhilash Kesavan
2014-07-04  4:13           ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-07-04  4:13             ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-07-04 17:45             ` Abhilash Kesavan
2014-07-04 17:45               ` Abhilash Kesavan
2014-11-10  6:26 [PATCH 00/13] Add VT-d Posted-Interrupts support for KVM Feng Wu
2014-11-10  6:26 ` [PATCH 13/13] iommu/vt-d: Add a command line parameter for VT-d posted-interrupts Feng Wu
2014-11-10 18:15   ` several messages Thomas Gleixner
2014-11-10 18:15     ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-11-11  2:28     ` Jiang Liu
2014-11-11  2:28       ` Jiang Liu
2014-11-11  6:37       ` Wu, Feng
2014-11-11  6:37         ` Wu, Feng
2016-01-25 18:37 [PATCH v2 0/3] x86/mm: INVPCID support Andy Lutomirski
2016-01-25 18:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2016-01-27 10:09   ` several messages Thomas Gleixner
2016-01-27 10:09     ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-01-29 13:21     ` Borislav Petkov
2022-06-16 13:55 [PATCH mptcp-next] selftests: mptcp: tweak simult_flows for debug kernels Paolo Abeni
2022-06-16 15:27 ` selftests: mptcp: tweak simult_flows for debug kernels.: Tests Results MPTCP CI
2022-06-17 22:13   ` several messages Mat Martineau
2022-09-01  0:29 [PATCH 00/18] make test "linting" more comprehensive Eric Sunshine via GitGitGadget
2022-09-01  0:29 ` [PATCH 18/18] t: retire unused chainlint.sed Eric Sunshine via GitGitGadget
2022-09-02 12:42   ` several messages Johannes Schindelin
2022-09-02 18:16     ` Eric Sunshine
2022-09-02 18:34       ` Jeff King
2022-09-02 18:44         ` Junio C Hamano
2023-06-12 16:02 [PATCH mptcp-next] mptcp: drop legacy code Paolo Abeni
2023-06-13 17:37 ` mptcp: drop legacy code.: Tests Results MPTCP CI
2023-06-16 22:54   ` several messages Mat Martineau

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