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From: Thunder from the hill <thunder@ngforever.de>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: Kai Henningsen <kaih@khms.westfalen.de>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Futex Asynchronous Interface
Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 13:06:51 -0600 (MDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0206091301520.8715-100000@hawkeye.luckynet.adm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0206091056550.13459-100000@home.transmeta.com>

Hi,

On Sun, 9 Jun 2002, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> Yes, some old-timers could argue that original UNIX didn't have sockets,

Not to mention MULTICS...

IMO this all looks like "exporting program variables to filesystem", would 
you do that? (Then we'll need /dev/memory/16k/5362337156/blah, etc.) The 
next issue would be "how do we stop other processes from using our 
sockets, semaphores, etc., ending up where we started.

Sockets are a good implementation as long as they don't fall down for some 
particular purpose. This isn't given yet. Semaphores didn't yet fall down, 
either. So what do you want more? The "old" system might look crappy to 
you, but it works! It works, even if it's a little more abstract than the 
Plan-9. Are we Plan-9?

Regards,
Thunder

PS. this mail was sent through a happily working lot of sockets.
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  reply	other threads:[~2002-06-09 19:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-06-06  7:26 [PATCH] Futex Asynchronous Interface Rusty Russell
2002-06-02  0:10 ` Pavel Machek
2002-06-10  6:57   ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-06 16:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-06 19:27   ` Alan Cox
2002-06-06 23:21   ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-07  8:33     ` Peter Wächtler
2002-06-08 22:28       ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-09  9:49         ` Kai Henningsen
2002-06-09 18:09           ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-09 19:06             ` Thunder from the hill [this message]
2002-06-10  6:39             ` Kai Henningsen
2002-06-10  7:55             ` Helge Hafting
2002-06-10 14:10               ` Thunder from the hill
2002-06-10 20:46                 ` Kai Henningsen
2002-06-11 14:14                   ` john slee
2002-06-10 15:11               ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-11 15:06                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-10 20:57             ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-06-09 10:07         ` Peter Wächtler
2002-06-09 17:49           ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-07  9:06   ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-08 22:42     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-11  9:15       ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-11 16:53         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-12  5:32           ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-12  9:16             ` Peter Wächtler
2002-06-12 14:19               ` Hubertus Franke
2002-06-12 16:50                 ` Peter Wächtler
2002-06-12 18:15                   ` Vladimir Zidar
2002-06-12 15:39               ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-12 16:29                 ` Peter Wächtler
2002-06-12 16:52                   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-12 17:07                     ` Peter Wächtler
2002-06-12 18:32                     ` Saurabh Desai
2002-06-12 20:05                     ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-06-12 20:16                       ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-13  2:57                     ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-13  9:37                       ` Peter Wächtler
2002-06-13  9:55                         ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-13 16:38                     ` Gabriel Paubert
2002-06-13 16:40                       ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-13  1:32               ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-06 16:08 Martin Wirth
2002-06-06 22:59 ` Rusty Russell

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