From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
To: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>
Cc: Joel Becker <Joel.Becker@oracle.com>,
Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortelnetworks.com>,
Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>,
Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: statfs() / statvfs() syscall ballsup...
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 14:09:18 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0310101402370.25501-100000@home.osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <16263.6450.819475.453165@charged.uio.no>
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003, Trond Myklebust wrote:
>
> In fact, I recently noticed that we still have this race in the NFS
> file locking code: readahead may have been scheduled before we
> actually set the file lock on the server, and may thus fill the page
> cache with stale data.
The current "invalidate_inode_pages()" is _not_ equivalent to a specific
user saying "these pages are bad and have to be updated".
The main difference is that invalidate_inode_pages() really cannot assume
that the pages are bad: the pages may be mapped into another process that
is actively writing to them, so the regular "invalidate_inode_pages()"
literally must not force a re-read - that would throw out real
information.
So "invalidate_inode_pages()" really is a hint, not a forced eviction.
A forced eviction can be done only by a user that says "I have write
permission to this file, and I will now say that these pages _have_ to be
thrown away, whether dirty or not".
And that's totally different, and will require a totally different
approach.
(As to the read-ahead issue: there's nothing saying that you can't wait
for the pages if they aren't up-to-date, and really synchronize with
read-ahead. But that will require filesystem help, if only to be able to
recognize that there is active IO going on. So NFS would have to keep
track of a "read list" the same way it does for writeback pages).
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-10-10 21:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-10-09 22:16 Trond Myklebust
2003-10-09 22:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-09 23:19 ` Ulrich Drepper
2003-10-10 0:22 ` viro
2003-10-10 4:49 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-10 5:26 ` Trond Myklebust
2003-10-10 12:37 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-10 13:46 ` Trond Myklebust
2003-10-10 14:35 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-10 15:32 ` Misc NFSv4 (was Re: statfs() / statvfs() syscall ballsup...) Trond Myklebust
2003-10-10 15:53 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-10 16:07 ` Trond Myklebust
2003-10-10 15:55 ` Michael Shuey
2003-10-10 16:20 ` Trond Myklebust
2003-10-10 16:45 ` J. Bruce Fields
2003-10-10 14:39 ` statfs() / statvfs() syscall ballsup Jamie Lokier
2003-10-09 23:31 ` Trond Myklebust
2003-10-10 12:27 ` Joel Becker
2003-10-10 14:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-10 15:27 ` Joel Becker
2003-10-10 16:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-10 16:26 ` Joel Becker
2003-10-10 16:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-10 17:33 ` Joel Becker
2003-10-10 17:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-10 18:13 ` Joel Becker
2003-10-10 16:27 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-10-10 16:33 ` Chris Friesen
2003-10-10 17:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-10 17:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-10 17:21 ` Joel Becker
2003-10-10 16:01 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-10 16:33 ` Joel Becker
2003-10-10 16:58 ` Chris Friesen
2003-10-10 17:05 ` Trond Myklebust
2003-10-10 17:20 ` Joel Becker
2003-10-10 17:33 ` Chris Friesen
2003-10-10 17:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-10 17:54 ` Trond Myklebust
2003-10-10 18:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-10 20:40 ` Trond Myklebust
2003-10-10 21:09 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2003-10-10 22:17 ` Trond Myklebust
2003-10-11 2:53 ` Andrew Morton
2003-10-11 3:47 ` Trond Myklebust
2003-10-10 18:05 ` Joel Becker
2003-10-10 18:31 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-10-10 20:33 ` Helge Hafting
2003-10-10 20:07 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-12 15:31 ` Greg Stark
2003-10-12 16:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-12 22:09 ` Greg Stark
2003-10-13 8:45 ` Helge Hafting
2003-10-15 13:25 ` Ingo Oeser
2003-10-15 15:03 ` Greg Stark
2003-10-15 18:37 ` Helge Hafting
2003-10-16 10:29 ` Ingo Oeser
2003-10-16 14:02 ` Greg Stark
2003-10-21 11:47 ` Ingo Oeser
2003-10-10 18:20 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-10-10 18:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-10 19:03 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-10-09 23:16 ` Andreas Dilger
2003-10-09 23:24 ` Linus Torvalds
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