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From: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
To: "Woodruff, Richard" <r-woodruff2@ti.com>
Cc: linux-pm@lists.osdl.org, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Subject: Re: So, what's the status on the recent patches here?
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 16:34:27 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0608251627460.3307-100000@netrider.rowland.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <EA12F909C0431D458B9D18A176BEE4A5074D04EE@dlee02.ent.ti.com>

On Fri, 25 Aug 2006, Woodruff, Richard wrote:

> There are two sides to this in the case for the embedded processor I'm
> using.
> 
> -A- you have to put the USB bus into suspend mode.
> 	- This will lower the throughput of the device on the other end.

?  Wouldn't suspending the entire bus completely stop the throughput of 
any attached device?

> The frequency of entering this state should not interfere with my active
> use case.
> 
> -B- After I've put down the USB device, I now can program the internal
> SOC bus wrapper for the USB to allow idling of the interconnect.  I also
> need to associate the USB remote wake interrupt with a wake up interrupt
> to restart my interconnect.  All devices on that interconnect must be in
> the same state for the big savings to happen.
> 
> Certainly for this embedded system, not coordinating the device states
> means I can't get the big power savings.

Part of this programming has to be done in the architecture-specific
driver for the interconnect.  There already is code being developed to
suspend USB buses when they aren't in use (although determining _when_
they aren't in use has not yet been implemented).  However this code stops
at the level of the USB controller.  Further development is being stymied
by lack of information about how to detect the controller's wake-up events
on regular desktop systems; it's possible someone might implement this
first on an embedded platform.

But this doesn't require any over-reaching global coordination.  All it 
needs is for each driver to know when it's not being used.

Alan Stern

  reply	other threads:[~2006-08-25 20:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 137+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-25 20:22 So, what's the status on the recent patches here? Woodruff, Richard
2006-08-25 20:34 ` Alan Stern [this message]
2006-08-25 21:27   ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-25 21:46     ` Alan Stern
2006-08-25 22:03       ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-26  2:21         ` Alan Stern
2006-08-26 23:34           ` usb suspend (was Re: So, what's the status on the recent patches here?) Pavel Machek
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-09-05 16:03 So, what's the status on the recent patches here? Scott E. Preece
2006-09-05 20:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-09-06 10:56 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-04 15:43 Scott E. Preece
2006-09-03 23:05 Scott E. Preece
2006-09-04  9:09 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-03 23:00 Scott E. Preece
2006-09-04  9:12 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-05 10:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-09-03 22:40 Scott E. Preece
2006-09-04  9:06 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-05 16:45   ` Mark Gross
2006-09-06 10:59     ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-03 22:31 Scott E. Preece
2006-09-03 22:41 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-03 22:12 Scott E. Preece
2006-09-03 22:25 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-03 21:34 Scott E. Preece
2006-09-03 21:43 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-03 22:10 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-09-03 21:21 Scott E. Preece
2006-09-03 21:54 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-01 14:49 Scott E. Preece
2006-08-31 15:14 Scott E. Preece
2006-08-31  2:41 Woodruff, Richard
2006-08-31  0:52 Scott E. Preece
2006-08-25 22:11 Woodruff, Richard
2006-08-25 21:21 Woodruff, Richard
2006-08-25 21:42 ` Alan Stern
2006-08-25 20:57 Woodruff, Richard
2006-08-25 21:13 ` Alan Stern
2006-08-25 20:05 Woodruff, Richard
2006-08-25 20:08 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-24 14:52 Woodruff, Richard
2006-08-25 19:58 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-24 12:16 Woodruff, Richard
2006-08-24 12:29 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-23 19:20 Woodruff, Richard
2006-08-24  8:03 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-20 13:36 Woodruff, Richard
2006-08-16  1:27 Scott E. Preece
2006-08-16 15:25 ` Mark Gross
2006-08-14 20:07 Greg KH
2006-08-14 22:24 ` Matthew Locke
2006-08-14 22:46   ` Dave Jones
2006-08-14 23:24     ` Matthew Locke
2006-08-14 23:48       ` Dave Jones
2006-08-15  1:00         ` Greg KH
2006-08-15  3:03           ` Dave Jones
2006-08-15 10:35           ` Amit Kucheria
2006-08-15 19:04             ` Dave Jones
2006-08-16 12:58               ` Igor Stoppa
2006-08-17 21:39                 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-18 10:02                   ` Igor Stoppa
2006-08-18 15:29                     ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2006-08-18 17:54                       ` Igor Stoppa
2006-08-18 21:05                         ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2006-08-20 13:19                           ` Igor Stoppa
2006-08-17  5:20               ` Matthew Locke
2006-08-17  7:20                 ` Paul Mundt
2006-08-17  9:18               ` Amit Kucheria
2006-08-17 21:40                 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-18  5:42                   ` Vitaly Wool
2006-08-23 12:28                     ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-23 15:26                       ` Igor Stoppa
2006-08-24 12:58                       ` Vitaly Wool
2006-08-25 19:55                         ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-25 23:26                           ` Vitaly Wool
2006-08-26 10:18                             ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-26 13:30                               ` Vitaly Wool
2006-08-26 13:46                                 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-28 16:40                                   ` Mark Gross
2006-08-28 17:39                                     ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-29  7:51                                       ` Matthew Locke
2006-08-30 22:13                                       ` Mark Gross
2006-08-30 22:27                                         ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-18 11:48                   ` Amit Kucheria
2006-08-24  7:59                     ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-30 11:00                       ` Amit Kucheria
2006-08-30 22:36                         ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-31 13:44                           ` Amit Kucheria
2006-09-02 11:17                             ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-17 21:24             ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-19  6:10           ` David Singleton
2006-08-22  2:13             ` Greg KH
2006-08-22  5:20               ` David Singleton
2006-08-23 19:05             ` Mark Gross
2006-08-24 12:39             ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-19  6:19           ` David Singleton
     [not found]             ` <20060819184843.GB15644@redhat.com>
2006-08-20  3:20               ` David Singleton
2006-08-20  3:30                 ` Dave Jones
2006-08-23 18:50                   ` Mark Gross
2006-08-27  4:37                   ` David Singleton
2006-08-27 15:41                     ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-29 15:55                       ` David Singleton
2006-08-29 16:34                         ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-29 17:49                           ` Preece Scott-PREECE
2006-08-30  6:20                             ` Matthew Locke
2006-08-30 13:26                               ` Preece Scott-PREECE
2006-08-30 22:50                                 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-31  0:22                                   ` Preece Scott-PREECE
2006-08-31 12:04                                     ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-02 18:05                               ` David Singleton
2006-09-02 19:30                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-09-03 16:25                                   ` David Singleton
2006-09-03 20:57                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-09-03 21:33                                     ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-09  0:39                                       ` David Singleton
2006-09-09  0:48                                         ` David Singleton
2006-09-09 16:13                                           ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-09 12:17                                         ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-11 15:11                                           ` David Singleton
2006-09-11 17:14                                             ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-11 18:58                                             ` Matthew Locke
2006-08-30  4:52                           ` David Singleton
2006-08-30  5:52                             ` Matthew Locke
2006-08-30 13:39                               ` Preece Scott-PREECE
2006-08-30 22:43                             ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-27 19:48                     ` Greg KH
2006-08-28  0:07                       ` David Singleton
2006-08-27 20:54                     ` Eugeny S. Mints
2006-08-28 22:18                       ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-29 21:46                         ` Eugeny S. Mints
2006-08-29  1:29                       ` David Singleton
2006-08-29 22:39                         ` Eugeny S. Mints
2006-08-31 13:27                         ` Amit Kucheria
2006-08-31 19:22                           ` Preece Scott-PREECE
2006-09-01  8:11                             ` Amit Kucheria
2006-08-14 23:29   ` Dominik Brodowski
2006-08-14 23:48     ` Matthew Locke

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