All of lore.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Alan Stern <stern-nwvwT67g6+6dFdvTe/nMLpVzexx5G7lz@public.gmane.org>
To: James Bottomley
	<James.Bottomley-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Dale R. Worley" <worley-FrUbXkNCsVf2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-scsi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-usb-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Large disk drives
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 11:14:39 -0500 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1411041112010.966-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1415087562.2351.3.camel-7O4RPy5TklLPRNG96csxHf8+0UxHXcjY@public.gmane.org>

On Tue, 4 Nov 2014, James Bottomley wrote:

> On Mon, 2014-11-03 at 16:06 -0500, Dale R. Worley wrote:
> > Was there any resolution as to how large disk drives would be handled
> > if their interface did not support the "capacity" request that would
> > tell how large they were?
> 
> Realistically no ... unless someone comes up with a reliable heuristic
> to give us the size.

I posted a patch to allow the user to override the reported capacity:

	http://marc.info/?l=linux-scsi&m=140993840113445&w=2

Nobody responded to it.

> > Unfortunately, such devices work OK with Windows (since Windows trusts
> > what the partition table says), you can't just say to the salesperson
> > "It has to work on drives over 3 TB."
> 
> This is a stopgap: your 3TB drive can be guessed as the 16 bit capacity
> plus 2TB, but the same won't happen for a 5TB device.  Believing the
> partition table gives us a chicken and egg problem because something
> still has to get the partition table on to the device.
> 
> I don't think "don't buy something that doesn't work" is a hugely
> unreasonable response to this.

The problem is knowing beforehand whether it will work.  Once you buy 
the device and can test it, returning it is annoying and time-consuming 
at best.

Alan Stern

--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-usb" in
the body of a message to majordomo-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-11-04 16:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-03 21:06 Large disk drives Dale R. Worley
2014-11-04  7:52 ` James Bottomley
     [not found]   ` <1415087562.2351.3.camel-7O4RPy5TklLPRNG96csxHf8+0UxHXcjY@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-04 16:14     ` Alan Stern [this message]
     [not found]       ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1411041112010.966-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-05 15:51         ` Dale R. Worley
2014-11-05 16:07       ` James Bottomley
2014-11-05 16:34         ` Alan Stern
     [not found]           ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1411051130470.1531-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-05 18:53             ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-11-05 19:30           ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]             ` <20141105193045.GA13265-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-06 10:30               ` James Bottomley
2014-11-06 14:33                 ` Boaz Harrosh
     [not found]                   ` <545B86AC.3080704-/8YdC2HfS5554TAoqtyWWQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-06 15:53                     ` Alan Stern
2014-11-06 16:43                       ` Boaz Harrosh
     [not found]                         ` <545BA52F.6050205-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-06 17:08                           ` David Laight
2014-11-06 17:18                             ` James Bottomley
2014-11-06 15:54                   ` James Bottomley
2014-11-06 16:34                     ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-11-06 16:59                       ` Alan Stern
2014-11-06 19:23                 ` Dale R. Worley
2014-11-06 20:16                   ` Alan Stern
2014-11-05 19:15         ` Theodore Ts'o
     [not found]           ` <20141105191505.GF27083-AKGzg7BKzIDYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-06 19:17             ` Dale R. Worley
2014-11-05 23:30       ` Dale R. Worley
2014-11-06 17:47         ` Alan Stern
2014-11-07  4:53 Norman Diamond
     [not found] ` <533357.25557.qm-303aDswoEIZ5hgrKqgaBcEyFvBl6snHEEwWAM/ix52Y@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-07 10:03   ` David Laight
2014-11-08  0:35     ` Norman Diamond

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1411041112010.966-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org \
    --to=stern-nwvwt67g6+6dfdvte/nmlpvzexx5g7lz@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=James.Bottomley-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=linux-scsi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=linux-usb-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=worley-FrUbXkNCsVf2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.