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From: David Lang <david.lang@digitalinsight.com>
To: Ed Tomlinson <edt@aei.ca>
Cc: Samium Gromoff <deepfire@sic-elvis.zel.ru>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.6.0 performance problems
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 18:23:54 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0401051821460.11842@dlang.diginsite.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200401051009.46293.edt@aei.ca>

On Mon, 5 Jan 2004, Ed Tomlinson wrote:

>
> On January 05, 2004 07:33 am, Samium Gromoff wrote:
> > At Tue, 30 Dec 2003 08:55:00 -0500,
> >
> > Ed Tomlinson wrote:
> > > On December 30, 2003 06:41 am, Samium Gromoff wrote:
> > > > Reality sucks.
> > > >
> > > > People are ignorant enough to turn blind eye to obvious vm regressions.
> > > >
> > > > No developers run 64M boxens anymore...
> > >
> > > No one is turning a blind eye.  Notice Linus has reponded to and is
> > > interested in this thread.  The vm is not perfect in all cases - in most
> > > cases it is faster though...
> >
> > "in most cases it is faster" is a big lie.
> >
> > The reality is: on all usual one-way boxes 2.6 goes slower than 2.4 once
> > you start paging.
>
> I would argue that in most case you do not page or page very little - know that is
> the case here.
>

This may be true of you have lots of memory, but with memory hogs like
mozilla and openoffice out there anyone who is working on an older machine
will be pageing, if only for the time it takes for the huge bloated
desktop app to start and get it's working set into memory.

things get even worse if you make the mistake of useing Gnome or KDE for
your desktop.

David Lang

-- 
"Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place.
Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are,
by definition, not smart enough to debug it." - Brian W. Kernighan

  reply	other threads:[~2004-01-06  2:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-12-30 11:41 2.6.0 performance problems Samium Gromoff
2004-01-03 19:54 ` Bill Davidsen
     [not found] ` <200312300855.00741.edt@aei.ca>
2004-01-05 12:33   ` Samium Gromoff
2004-01-05 15:09     ` Ed Tomlinson
2004-01-06  2:23       ` David Lang [this message]
2004-01-06 14:44         ` Samium Gromoff
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-12-29 22:07 Thomas Molina
2003-12-29 22:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-29 22:58   ` Thomas Molina
2003-12-29 23:04     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-30 14:14       ` Thomas Molina
2003-12-30 14:39         ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-30 21:14           ` Thomas Molina
2003-12-30 21:23             ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-31  0:50               ` Thomas Molina
2003-12-31  1:01                 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-31  1:34                 ` Andrew Morton
2003-12-31 11:25                   ` bert hubert
2003-12-30 21:35             ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-30 23:46             ` Roger Luethi
2003-12-30 18:20         ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-29 23:14     ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-12-30  5:09       ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-30 10:27         ` Thomas Molina
2003-12-29 23:25     ` David B. Stevens
2003-12-29 23:05   ` Thomas Molina
2003-12-29 23:43     ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-12-30  0:17       ` Thomas Molina
2003-12-30  1:23         ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-12-30  1:27         ` Dave Jones
2003-12-30  1:37           ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-12-30  1:40             ` Dave Jones
2003-12-30  1:49             ` Thomas Molina
2003-12-30  2:03               ` Mike Fedyk
2004-01-03 19:37     ` Bill Davidsen
2003-12-30  1:25 ` Roger Luethi
2003-12-30  1:37   ` Thomas Molina
2003-12-30 19:21     ` Andy Isaacson
2003-12-30 19:40       ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-30 22:24         ` Roger Luethi
2003-12-31  0:33           ` Thomas Molina
2003-12-31 10:17             ` Roger Luethi
2003-12-31 11:21               ` Jens Axboe
2003-12-31 21:03                 ` Roger Luethi
2004-01-01  1:27                   ` Thomas Molina
2004-01-01 10:23                     ` Roger Luethi
2004-01-01 23:09                 ` Roger Luethi
2004-01-02 10:11                   ` Jens Axboe
2003-12-30  1:27 ` Thomas Molina
2003-12-30  2:53   ` Thomas Molina

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