From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S964922AbWAWWLE (ORCPT ); Mon, 23 Jan 2006 17:11:04 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S964954AbWAWWLE (ORCPT ); Mon, 23 Jan 2006 17:11:04 -0500 Received: from spirit.analogic.com ([204.178.40.4]:11273 "EHLO spirit.analogic.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S964922AbWAWWLC convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Mon, 23 Jan 2006 17:11:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 In-Reply-To: <200601212043.k0LKhG4w003290@laptop11.inf.utfsm.cl> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jan 2006 22:10:56.0965 (UTC) FILETIME=[E2759750:01C62069] Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Re: GPL V3 and Linux Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 17:10:56 -0500 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: GPL V3 and Linux Thread-Index: AcYgaeJ/DeT0HeXjTteVQGOl5N0aiA== References: <200601212043.k0LKhG4w003290@laptop11.inf.utfsm.cl> From: "linux-os \(Dick Johnson\)" To: "Horst von Brand" Cc: "Alexander Shishckin" , "Chase Venters" , "Jeff V. Merkey" , "Linux Kernel Mailing List" Reply-To: "linux-os \(Dick Johnson\)" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, 21 Jan 2006, Horst von Brand wrote: > Alexander Shishckin wrote: > > [...] > >> Ain't that obvoius? Every second word that you read in GPLs is either >> 'freedom' or 'share' and the rest of the document has absolutely nothing >> to do with both, just restricting our *freedom* to *share*. > > How so? The existence of GNU doesn't restrict *my* right to share as *I* > wish. If I, freely, place my stuff under GPL it /does/ restrict other > people in just "sharing" (i.e., taking without giving in return). And that > is fine with me. Not with them, I presume... > -- > Dr. Horst H. von Brand User #22616 counter.li.org > Departamento de Informatica Fono: +56 32 654431 > Universidad Tecnica Federico Santa Maria +56 32 654239 > Casilla 110-V, Valparaiso, Chile Fax: +56 32 797513 The problem is that every rule and every law takes away rights. Laws do not give rights. Rules do not give rights. Amendments to existing laws sometimes prevent the restriction of rights (like the first 10 amendments of the US Constitution), however there are no rules or laws that ever, anywhere, provided any rights whatsoever. Rules, regulations, and laws are all about restricting rights. Sometimes the restrictions are necessary. For instance, except in very special circumstances, governments usually take away the inherent rights to kill, etc. The initial writer was correct. The GPL was supposed to be all about freedom. Then, there are hundreds of words that have nothing to do with freedom. They establish rules. The crybaby says; "You will play by my rules or..." Rules restrict freedom. Perhaps these rules are necessary. However, for 20 years before the Internet even existed, people were sharing source-code without rules. This was the principle behind the PROGRAM EXCHANGE and other obsolete BBS systems. At that time the ground- work of most all the file-compression routines, file-transmission routines, file-types, flight- simulators, etc., the stuff now claimed by others, was freely given away. Some expected their names to remain in the source, but eventually their names were changed to "Microsoft" or GPL. For example, Phil Katz. He invented "zip" and gunzip and all that stuff. He's now dead. His lifetime of work has been stolen by others and claimed as their own. The Internet gets established and somebody who's claim-to-fame was the development of the world's most complicated word-processor, establishes some legalese and a lot of well intentioned persons fall into his trap as he claims that he developed GNU/Linux as well. Wake up. Cheers, Dick Johnson Penguin : Linux version 2.6.13.4 on an i686 machine (5589.54 BogoMips). Warning : 98.36% of all statistics are fiction. . **************************************************************** The information transmitted in this message is confidential and may be privileged. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, or other use of this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify Analogic Corporation immediately - by replying to this message or by sending an email to DeliveryErrors@analogic.com - and destroy all copies of this information, including any attachments, without reading or disclosing them. Thank you.