From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,MENTIONS_GIT_HOSTING, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60DBDC433E0 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 2021 19:52:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F39122A84 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 2021 19:52:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726996AbhAJTwa (ORCPT ); Sun, 10 Jan 2021 14:52:30 -0500 Received: from vps0.lunn.ch ([185.16.172.187]:60236 "EHLO vps0.lunn.ch" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726608AbhAJTw3 (ORCPT ); Sun, 10 Jan 2021 14:52:29 -0500 Received: from andrew by vps0.lunn.ch with local (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1kygkT-00HMyn-Ut; Sun, 10 Jan 2021 20:51:37 +0100 Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2021 20:51:37 +0100 From: Andrew Lunn To: Arnd Bergmann Cc: Linux ARM , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Baruch Siach , Geert Uytterhoeven , Neil Armstrong , Viresh Kumar , Linus Walleij , Daniel Tang , Jamie Iles , Krzysztof Adamski , Alexander Shiyan , Michael Ellerman , Russell King - ARM Linux , Wei Xu , Oleksij Rempel , Alex Elder , Marc Gonzalez , Hans Ulli Kroll , Uwe =?iso-8859-1?Q?Kleine-K=F6nig?= , Steven Rostedt , Vladimir Zapolskiy , Lubomir Rintel , Koen Vandeputte , Barry Song , Thomas Bogendoerfer , Yoshinori Sato , Jonas Jensen , Hartley Sweeten , Mark Salter , Shawn Guo Subject: Re: Old platforms: bring out your dead Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 06:27:12PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 5:48 PM Andrew Lunn wrote: > > > > > For this platform, I'm most interested in whether there are still users > > > that rely on board files instead of DT. AFAIU we could just fold > > > the DT variant into arch-mvebu like kirkwood was, right? > > > > Hi Arnd > > > > I'm actually booting my device using a board file. But Debian > > flash-kernel is pretty unhappy about that. The bootloader i have on > > this machine is too old to passed DT blob. I will test appended DT > > blob still works. And see if we have any board files which also don't > > have a DT representation. Hi Arnd Appended DT works fine for my device. > It may help to ask for these at > https://github.com/1000001101000/Debian_on_Buffalo/, Thanks for the link. I looked at the remaining board files and i'm cooking up a set of patches. I don't see any reason to keep the Marvell reference designs around, especially since one has been converted to DT and gives a good example how the others could be converted. The two WiFi devices have been dropped by OpenWRT, too little RAM/FLASH. OpenWRT seems like the most likely downstream user, so if they have given up supporting them, i think it is safe for mainline to drop them. I checked with the ts78xx Maintainer and he says we can drop that. Kurobox Pro has a DTS file, so i've dropped to board file. What is left are NAS boxes. The low FLASH is not really an issue for them, they can run with the OS on the disk. And they are the sort of device which does have a long life. Andrew From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.0 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, MENTIONS_GIT_HOSTING,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BAF4C433DB for ; Sun, 10 Jan 2021 19:53:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from merlin.infradead.org (merlin.infradead.org [205.233.59.134]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 09E6E22A84 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 2021 19:53:25 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 09E6E22A84 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=lunn.ch Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux-arm-kernel-bounces+linux-arm-kernel=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lists.infradead.org; s=merlin.20170209; h=Sender:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type:Cc:List-Subscribe:List-Help:List-Post:List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe:List-Id:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID: Subject:To:From:Date:Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Owner; bh=iCym4PQO2/UQTbf4V1/7J4NoxUDnM05JccBcoejvugw=; b=R6kCiLsVfzHTDDNR1X4lic8FD f0vTfUk0pOTZfC7crQOASYnC+VG9SVJw9XnUwlPUK/KsfdF2Wn7tAsSsQCNh8A7epMNkQFOaz8eLL hMFcTIWyTvQZpntinFrEDEP4Mk7NGLdXZaCq7LSz2uFUl7NwS7EXMDkeNfqli1njHUKfwkpKLoTLZ 7Ftl7Ix9T6ZmashY/TDfjzrnZ9kzRBZP0kanxxrqFgcjMB0B0kgkYBrRsTk9sV+Avdf6N3hd7d7S8 8oCqTFI6qchE72Dcf4wqmFBdzn5aWDyKMV0EBCi0BstHfb8n7Uj+d/5aGyV5LFsa8WEofhz8Slhlx +BAipibIA==; Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=merlin.infradead.org) by merlin.infradead.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92.3 #3 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1kygkj-0001Ia-Tz; Sun, 10 Jan 2021 19:51:53 +0000 Received: from vps0.lunn.ch ([185.16.172.187]) by merlin.infradead.org with esmtps (Exim 4.92.3 #3 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1kygkg-0001Gz-6h for linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org; Sun, 10 Jan 2021 19:51:51 +0000 Received: from andrew by vps0.lunn.ch with local (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1kygkT-00HMyn-Ut; Sun, 10 Jan 2021 20:51:37 +0100 Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2021 20:51:37 +0100 From: Andrew Lunn To: Arnd Bergmann Subject: Re: Old platforms: bring out your dead Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-CRM114-Version: 20100106-BlameMichelson ( TRE 0.8.0 (BSD) ) MR-646709E3 X-CRM114-CacheID: sfid-20210110_145150_312996_84D7DCC9 X-CRM114-Status: GOOD ( 20.65 ) X-BeenThere: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Baruch Siach , Geert Uytterhoeven , Neil Armstrong , Viresh Kumar , Linus Walleij , Daniel Tang , Jamie Iles , Krzysztof Adamski , Alexander Shiyan , Michael Ellerman , Russell King - ARM Linux , Wei Xu , Oleksij Rempel , Alex Elder , Marc Gonzalez , Hans Ulli Kroll , Uwe =?iso-8859-1?Q?Kleine-K=F6nig?= , Steven Rostedt , Vladimir Zapolskiy , Lubomir Rintel , Koen Vandeputte , Linux ARM , Barry Song , Thomas Bogendoerfer , Yoshinori Sato , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Jonas Jensen , Hartley Sweeten , Mark Salter , Shawn Guo Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: "linux-arm-kernel" Errors-To: linux-arm-kernel-bounces+linux-arm-kernel=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 06:27:12PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 5:48 PM Andrew Lunn wrote: > > > > > For this platform, I'm most interested in whether there are still users > > > that rely on board files instead of DT. AFAIU we could just fold > > > the DT variant into arch-mvebu like kirkwood was, right? > > > > Hi Arnd > > > > I'm actually booting my device using a board file. But Debian > > flash-kernel is pretty unhappy about that. The bootloader i have on > > this machine is too old to passed DT blob. I will test appended DT > > blob still works. And see if we have any board files which also don't > > have a DT representation. Hi Arnd Appended DT works fine for my device. > It may help to ask for these at > https://github.com/1000001101000/Debian_on_Buffalo/, Thanks for the link. I looked at the remaining board files and i'm cooking up a set of patches. I don't see any reason to keep the Marvell reference designs around, especially since one has been converted to DT and gives a good example how the others could be converted. The two WiFi devices have been dropped by OpenWRT, too little RAM/FLASH. OpenWRT seems like the most likely downstream user, so if they have given up supporting them, i think it is safe for mainline to drop them. I checked with the ts78xx Maintainer and he says we can drop that. Kurobox Pro has a DTS file, so i've dropped to board file. What is left are NAS boxes. The low FLASH is not really an issue for them, they can run with the OS on the disk. And they are the sort of device which does have a long life. Andrew _______________________________________________ linux-arm-kernel mailing list linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-arm-kernel