From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8FE7BC64ED6 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2023 11:04:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pRt6Q-0008Lw-EZ; Tue, 14 Feb 2023 06:04:02 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pRt6O-0008LO-Qf for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 14 Feb 2023 06:04:01 -0500 Received: from us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com ([170.10.133.124]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pRt6N-0006Gl-Gw for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 14 Feb 2023 06:04:00 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=redhat.com; s=mimecast20190719; t=1676372639; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=nBwqFAD4fPIWMEor3pwTn+YhIhtIwxYptURXbii/sl4=; b=Iyj3hVwJMLhQ1OXrOUNrW57LXD07sogXsW93fDql75mWrw8gZxQlUmHEqDZ+tcsKRE/uXI b6gL8wJ0qsRhvDjtTWm7Gr5DOmTpKCUpzoIvfdP3B6wegaktqvfI7YtJmvW5LphkWPOp91 kEh/aULVLXCq8SC8iu1UJc4bWs/A3Fc= Received: from mimecast-mx02.redhat.com (mimecast-mx02.redhat.com [66.187.233.88]) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP with STARTTLS (version=TLSv1.2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id us-mta-6-Wko2CNp-MgGOhtLX2_xGkA-1; Tue, 14 Feb 2023 06:03:54 -0500 X-MC-Unique: Wko2CNp-MgGOhtLX2_xGkA-1 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.rdu2.redhat.com [10.11.54.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mimecast-mx02.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6BF56101A52E; Tue, 14 Feb 2023 11:03:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from redhat.com (unknown [10.39.192.80]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5AED640CE2A7; Tue, 14 Feb 2023 11:03:52 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2023 12:03:51 +0100 From: Kevin Wolf To: Markus Armbruster Cc: Daniel =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=2E_Berrang=E9?= , Peter Maydell , John Snow , qemu-devel , Cleber Rosa , Philippe =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mathieu-Daud=E9?= , Thomas Huth , Beraldo Leal , Michael Roth , Wainer dos Santos Moschetta , Paolo Bonzini , Qemu-block , Hanna Reitz , Alex =?iso-8859-1?Q?Benn=E9e?= Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 6/7] CI: Stop building docs on centos8 Message-ID: References: <20230210003147.1309376-1-jsnow@redhat.com> <20230210003147.1309376-7-jsnow@redhat.com> <87cz6cpue3.fsf@pond.sub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87cz6cpue3.fsf@pond.sub.org> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 3.1 on 10.11.54.1 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=170.10.133.124; envelope-from=kwolf@redhat.com; helo=us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Am 14.02.2023 um 08:40 hat Markus Armbruster geschrieben: > I read this on Friday, and decided to let it sit until after the > weekend. Well, it's now Tuesday, and to be frank, it's still as > offensively flippant as it was on Friday. It shows either ignorance of > or cavalier disregard for the sheer amount of work some of us have had > to put into keeping old versions of Python viable. > > The latter would be quite unlike you, so it must be the former. Honest question, Markus, because I haven't been following as much what is happening in Python recently: What are the biggest pain points in this context? Has Python started removing features from new versions more aggressively so that we have to update the code so it can run on newer versions, and still keep compatibility paths for older versions that don't have the replacement yet? Kevin