From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6174C61D97 for ; Sun, 29 Jan 2023 05:39:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S230123AbjA2Fjg (ORCPT ); Sun, 29 Jan 2023 00:39:36 -0500 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:57678 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229436AbjA2Fjf (ORCPT ); Sun, 29 Jan 2023 00:39:35 -0500 Received: from bombadil.infradead.org (bombadil.infradead.org [IPv6:2607:7c80:54:3::133]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8514D20D31 for ; Sat, 28 Jan 2023 21:39:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infradead.org; s=bombadil.20210309; h=Sender:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description; bh=6WJ9Pu74OAlot46PM38EuI7lj/TpOZqZHOu/KspnF9w=; b=W1O8m0315I48Dl+JTrJxTYwjPh kDwE18XwtobCnIu46KB5V8K+XdIF9blU9FLEx6Z/CUtRwuvwlK7EIjRJOp/U2RokLjuYsDUc+EK9A nfimd2rr1ixP67VA1b6iq0AQem8FkZBWCRemkJh/xJKc5BSQEWXqoWpFUu3xM3FAQdv0KEL/S88ZL MqGB6Ba/5/+nFYxL5X8qaGePByoHkb1zPLPLllmY27zF3BFkRZt+NhckJO0mENtUeaBXAwmmHSiRp tSqPaA6bDQr5EZPGHn6FIgh7BLY5gxMbfxZ/5TRBNricgjFxZVq5zuAiYmKsc5o4/73d2F7bwg1ka +bLW1/Ng==; Received: from mcgrof by bombadil.infradead.org with local (Exim 4.94.2 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1pM0PY-0014oo-UZ; Sun, 29 Jan 2023 05:39:28 +0000 Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2023 21:39:28 -0800 From: Luis Chamberlain To: Matthew Wilcox Cc: lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org, Christoph Hellwig , David Howells , "kbus >> Keith Busch" , Pankaj Raghav , linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org Subject: Re: LSF/MM/BPF 2023 IOMAP conversion status update Message-ID: References: <20230129044645.3cb2ayyxwxvxzhah@garbanzo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Sender: Luis Chamberlain Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org On Sun, Jan 29, 2023 at 05:06:47AM +0000, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > There's maybe a > separate discussion to be had for "What should the API be for filesystems > to access metadata on the block device" because I don't believe the > page-cache based APIs are easy for fs authors to use. OK sure, and *why* that would be good, yes sure. Perhaps that should be dicussed first though as then it I think may be easier to possibly celebrate IOMAP. > Maybe some related topics are > "What testing should we require for some of these ancient filesystems?" Oh yes.... > "Whose job is it to convert these 35 filesystems anyway, can we just > delete some of them?" > "Is there a lower-performance but easier-to-implement API than iomap > for old filesystems that only exist for compatibiity reasons?" Yes... Luis