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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Demi Marie Obenour <demi@invisiblethingslab.com>
Cc: "Christoph Hellwig" <hch@infradead.org>,
	"Jens Axboe" <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	"Marek Marczykowski-Górecki" <marmarek@invisiblethingslab.com>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/7] block: Support creating a struct file from a block device
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2023 23:45:55 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y9oYs+KycfdFYlu2@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y9lBlKD3U/jMug9j@itl-email>

On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 11:27:59AM -0500, Demi Marie Obenour wrote:
> While it is easy to provide userspace with an FD to any struct file, it
> is *not* easy to obtain a struct file for a given struct block_device.
> I could have had device-mapper implement everything itself, but that
> would have duplicated a large amount of code already in the block layer.
> Instead, I decided to refactor the block layer to provide a function
> that does exactly what was needed.  The result was this patch.  In the
> future, I would like to add an ioctl for /dev/loop-control that creates
> a loop device and returns a file descriptor to the loop device.  I could
> also see iSCSI supporting this, with the socket file descriptor being
> passed in from userspace.

And it is somewhat intentional that you can't.  Block device inodes
have interesting life times and are never directly exposed to userspace
at all.  They are internal, and only f_mapping of a file system inode
delegates to them or I/O.  Your patch now magically exposes them to
userspace.  And it then bypasses all pathname and inode permission
based access checks and auditing.  So we can't just do it.

> blkdev_do_open() does not solve any problem for me at this time.
> Instead, it represents the code shared by blkdev_get_by_dev() and
> blkdev_get_file().  I decided to export it because it could be of
> independent use to others.  In particular, it could potentially
> simplify disk_scan_partitions() in block/genhd.c, pkt_new_dev() in
> pktcdvd, backing_dev_store() in zram, and f2fs_scan_devices() in f2fs.

All thse need to actually open the underlying device as they do I/O.
Doing I/O without opening the device is a no-go.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-01  7:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-26  3:33 [RFC PATCH 0/7] Allow race-free block device handling Demi Marie Obenour
2023-01-26  3:33 ` [dm-devel] " Demi Marie Obenour
2023-01-26  3:33 ` [RFC PATCH 1/7] block: Support creating a struct file from a block device Demi Marie Obenour
2023-01-30  8:08   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-30 19:22     ` Demi Marie Obenour
2023-01-31  8:53       ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-31 16:27         ` Demi Marie Obenour
2023-02-01  7:45           ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2023-02-01 16:18             ` Demi Marie Obenour
2023-02-02  8:49           ` Ming Lei
2023-02-02 17:24             ` Demi Marie Obenour
2023-01-26  3:33 ` [RFC PATCH 2/7] Allow userspace to get an FD to a newly-created DM device Demi Marie Obenour
2023-01-26  3:33   ` [dm-devel] " Demi Marie Obenour
2023-01-26  3:33 ` [RFC PATCH 3/7] Implement diskseq checks in blkback Demi Marie Obenour
2023-01-26  3:33 ` [RFC PATCH 4/7] Increment diskseq when releasing a loop device Demi Marie Obenour
2023-01-30  8:09   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-26  3:33 ` [RFC PATCH 6/7] Minor blkback cleanups Demi Marie Obenour
2023-01-26  3:33 ` [RFC PATCH 7/7] xen/blkback: Inform userspace that device has been opened Demi Marie Obenour
2023-02-02 16:50 ` [RFC PATCH 0/7] Allow race-free block device handling Mike Snitzer
2023-02-02 16:50   ` [dm-devel] " Mike Snitzer
2023-02-02 18:41   ` Demi Marie Obenour
2023-02-02 18:41     ` [dm-devel] " Demi Marie Obenour
2023-02-02 19:56     ` Mike Snitzer
2023-02-02 19:56       ` [dm-devel] " Mike Snitzer
2023-02-02 20:57       ` Demi Marie Obenour
2023-02-02 20:57         ` [dm-devel] " Demi Marie Obenour

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