From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.0 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_INVALID, DKIM_SIGNED,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED,USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7081EC433E0 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2021 15:33:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C1D6464FBB for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2021 15:33:47 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org C1D6464FBB Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=redhat.com Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Received: from localhost ([::1]:58104 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lK0qI-0006jK-Lh for qemu-devel@archiver.kernel.org; Wed, 10 Mar 2021 10:33:46 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54132) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lK0oj-0006Am-44 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 10 Mar 2021 10:32:09 -0500 Received: from us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com ([216.205.24.124]:25530) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lK0of-0004tI-W5 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 10 Mar 2021 10:32:08 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=redhat.com; s=mimecast20190719; t=1615390323; h=from:from:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references; bh=2XkvfGty/qw8XR3SllynFVQe8I7vq/gfa5bYhDAwOeM=; b=jP4l0KhISqOi5B4rtTDpmGtXKA+VzUAKQKhHomWjBWxznkRFffLmn0WZu2cCz0pbBPRN1X vgXoL2JSBP0NYzb6RmHo6HTPvacaXR/pasxWoOMwlD2JoV+8x7ubepFKI1Rm34iVNP/BEm Fqc8Ahd0kai89uJMHgDX8kp4GibPcqs= Received: from mimecast-mx01.redhat.com (mimecast-mx01.redhat.com [209.132.183.4]) (Using TLS) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP id us-mta-71-eLKJEbeUNgazsBaxtRTyUA-1; Wed, 10 Mar 2021 10:31:57 -0500 X-MC-Unique: eLKJEbeUNgazsBaxtRTyUA-1 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx06.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mimecast-mx01.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E6D8257; Wed, 10 Mar 2021 15:31:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from redhat.com (ovpn-115-24.ams2.redhat.com [10.36.115.24]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 822BF5C22A; Wed, 10 Mar 2021 15:31:51 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 15:31:48 +0000 From: Daniel =?utf-8?B?UC4gQmVycmFuZ8Op?= To: Paolo Bonzini Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] usb: Un-deprecate -usbdevice (except for -usbdevice audio which gets removed) Message-ID: References: <20210309165035.967853-1-thuth@redhat.com> <87y2ev2lmr.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org> <20210310150209.nie5fifqi5od3r5u@begin> <5139e2b3-447e-2373-71b7-6fb5af020867@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5139e2b3-447e-2373-71b7-6fb5af020867@redhat.com> User-Agent: Mutt/2.0.5 (2021-01-21) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.16 Authentication-Results: relay.mimecast.com; auth=pass smtp.auth=CUSA124A263 smtp.mailfrom=berrange@redhat.com X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 X-Mimecast-Originator: redhat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Received-SPF: pass client-ip=216.205.24.124; envelope-from=berrange@redhat.com; helo=us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com X-Spam_score_int: -29 X-Spam_score: -3.0 X-Spam_bar: --- X-Spam_report: (-3.0 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.243, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Daniel =?utf-8?B?UC4gQmVycmFuZ8Op?= Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Thomas Huth , Gerd Hoffmann , Samuel Thibault , Markus Armbruster Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: "Qemu-devel" On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 04:26:46PM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote: > On 10/03/21 16:02, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > > When trying to remove the -usbdevice option, there were complaints that > > > > "-usbdevice braille" is still a very useful shortcut for some people. > > > Pointer? I missed it. > > > > For instance > > https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2018-01/msg00693.html > > In one sentence: "Braille is worth a special case because a subset of our > user base (blind people) will use it 100% of the time, plus it is not > supported by libvirt and hence virt-manager". If simplicity of enabling braille support is critical, we could get something even simpler than "-usbdevice braille", and just provide a bare "-braille" with no args required as a "do the right thing" option ? Regards, Daniel -- |: https://berrange.com -o- https://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange :| |: https://libvirt.org -o- https://fstop138.berrange.com :| |: https://entangle-photo.org -o- https://www.instagram.com/dberrange :|