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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@arm.com>
Cc: mingo@kernel.org, mgorman@suse.de, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
	vincent.guittot@linaro.org, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, bsegall@google.com, bristot@redhat.com,
	joshdon@google.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, greg@kroah.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/9] sched: Move SCHED_DEBUG to debugfs
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2021 14:26:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YG2lBimj3cKMErA7@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87blaqnzho.mognet@arm.com>

On Wed, Apr 07, 2021 at 11:46:43AM +0100, Valentin Schneider wrote:
> On 26/03/21 11:33, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >  __read_mostly bool sched_debug_enabled;
> >  
> > +struct dentry *debugfs_sched;
> > +
> >  static __init int sched_init_debug(void)
> >  {
> > -	debugfs_create_file("sched_features", 0644, NULL, NULL,
> > -			&sched_feat_fops);
> > +	struct dentry __maybe_unused *numa;
> > +
> > +	debugfs_sched = debugfs_create_dir("sched", NULL);
> > +
> > +	debugfs_create_file("features", 0644, debugfs_sched, NULL, &sched_feat_fops);
> > +	debugfs_create_bool("debug_enabled", 0644, debugfs_sched, &sched_debug_enabled);
> > +
> 
> Could we kill this too? I'm probably biased because I've spent some amount
> of time banging my head at topology problems, but this two-tiered debugging
> setup (KCONFIG + cmdline or post-boot write) has always irked me.
> 
> I can't find the threads in a hurry, but ISTR justifications for keeping
> this around were:
> - Most distros have CONFIG_SCHED_DEBUG=y because knobs and ponies
> - Topology debug prints are "too verbose"

^^ that mostly.

> - NUMA distance matrix processing gets slower
> 
> If we make it so distros stop / don't need to select CONFIG_SCHED_DEBUG,

We're not there yet, I think :-(

> then I don't think the above really stands anymore (also, sched_init_numa()
> now has the same complexity regardless of sched_debug), and we could keep
> everything under CONFIG_SCHED_DEBUG.

But yes, the reason this knob exists is ebcause I too frequently forget
to add the boot time knob, so I added this one to enable it at runtime
and then I get topology prints when I hotplug cycle a cpu.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-07 12:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-26 10:33 [PATCH 0/9] sched: Clean up SCHED_DEBUG Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-26 10:33 ` [PATCH 1/9] sched/numa: Allow runtime enabling/disabling of NUMA balance without SCHED_DEBUG Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-26 10:33 ` [PATCH 2/9] sched: Remove sched_schedstats sysctl out from under SCHED_DEBUG Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-26 10:33 ` [PATCH 3/9] sched: Dont make LATENCYTOP select SCHED_DEBUG Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-26 10:33 ` [PATCH 4/9] sched: Move SCHED_DEBUG to debugfs Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-26 11:06   ` Greg KH
2021-04-07 10:46   ` Valentin Schneider
2021-04-07 12:26     ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2021-04-07 12:57       ` Valentin Schneider
2021-03-26 10:33 ` [PATCH 5/9] sched,preempt: Move preempt_dynamic to debug.c Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-26 10:33 ` [PATCH 6/9] debugfs: Implement debugfs_create_str() Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-26 11:05   ` Greg KH
2021-03-26 11:18     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-26 11:30       ` Greg KH
2021-03-26 11:38         ` [PATCH v2 " Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-26 12:18           ` Greg KH
2021-03-26 12:53           ` Rasmus Villemoes
2021-03-26 12:57             ` Greg KH
2021-03-26 13:10               ` Rasmus Villemoes
2021-03-26 14:12                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-26 14:19                   ` Greg KH
2021-03-26 14:22             ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-26 14:58               ` Rasmus Villemoes
2021-03-26 15:19                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-27 10:41                   ` Greg KH
2021-03-26 14:50   ` [PATCH v3 " Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-27 10:42     ` Greg KH
2021-03-27 22:24   ` [PATCH " Al Viro
2021-03-28  0:33     ` Steven Rostedt
2021-03-26 10:33 ` [PATCH 7/9] sched,debug: Convert sysctl sched_domains to debugfs Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-26 13:11   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2021-04-07 10:46   ` Valentin Schneider
2021-04-07 12:18     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-26 10:34 ` [PATCH 8/9] sched: Move /proc/sched_debug " Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-26 11:05   ` Greg KH
2021-03-26 10:34 ` [PATCH 9/9] sched,fair: Alternative sched_slice() Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-26 12:08   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2021-03-26 14:07     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-26 15:37   ` Vincent Guittot
2021-03-26 18:30     ` Peter Zijlstra

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