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From: Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>
To: Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>
Cc: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>,
	Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, gitster@pobox.com,
	Derrick Stolee <derrickstolee@github.com>,
	Derrick Stolee <dstolee@microsoft.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] t1092: use GIT_PROGRESS_DELAY for consistent results
Date: Mon, 24 May 2021 17:42:49 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YKwd2e5VxVmU6zqj@nand.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e35b5217-362f-fc4f-7396-08218a9abf63@gmail.com>

On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 04:38:18PM -0400, Derrick Stolee wrote:
> On 5/24/21 4:28 PM, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
> > Hm, I think this test strategy is going to be fundamentally flaky
> > regardless: Git doesn't intend to guarantee any kind of stability in
> > the exact stderr output it writes.
>
> There are no expectations that stderr is stable across
> versions of Git. These tests don't add friction to developers
> making new features or changing the error messages that appear
> over stderr. It's just that these tests should catch any
> unintended inconsistency across these modes.

I agree with Stolee that these tests are valuable for asserting that
output is the consistent whether or not you are using the sparse index.

I find setting GIT_PROGRESS_DELAY to a large number to a be a little
ugly, but there isn't an apparent better way to accomplish the same
thing. Of course, it would be nice to have an environment variable to
specify where progress meters are written to, or a global option to
disable progress meters altogether.

But I don't think this isolated instance should push in the direction of
adding support for either of the above, regardless of how easy it might
be.

What would perhaps make more sense is to silence the progress meters
from the commands themselves. AFAICT the only command called by
run_on_sparse() which generates a progress meter is 'git checkout',
'git merge', and 'git submodule', all of which support '--no-progress'.
Might it be worth passing that option instead of setting
GIT_PROGRESS_DELAY to a large value?

(For what it's worth, I have no strong opinion either way, so I would be
happy to attach my Reviewed-by to even the current version of this patch).

Thanks,
Taylor

  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-24 21:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-24 19:55 [PATCH] t1092: use GIT_PROGRESS_DELAY for consistent results Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-05-24 20:28 ` Jonathan Nieder
2021-05-24 20:38   ` Derrick Stolee
2021-05-24 21:42     ` Taylor Blau [this message]
2021-05-24 22:57       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-25  0:13         ` Taylor Blau
2021-05-25  0:39           ` Derrick Stolee
2021-05-25  6:32             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-05-25 10:54               ` Derrick Stolee
2021-05-25 20:46                 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-05-25 21:14                   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-05-25 21:49                   ` Taylor Blau
2021-05-25  2:54           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-05-25 15:10             ` Taylor Blau
2021-05-25  7:39           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-25  8:06             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-05-25  2:49       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-05-25  2:41     ` Junio C Hamano

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