From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from wout3-smtp.messagingengine.com (wout3-smtp.messagingengine.com [64.147.123.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1BCA03FC3 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2021 23:45:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E0C63200A43; Fri, 10 Sep 2021 19:45:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 10 Sep 2021 19:45:21 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= joshtriplett.org; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:content-type:in-reply-to; s=fm1; bh=J+I cl7uB3GZOQDqpLiH4V9OeHg5D3Ov7eNDVj6syhIs=; b=GMVtFKzndhfEVyvjroB JRebYXOQDROao5paNUE9w3Gujt+/DyCPzjcNc6AWzRTBUCVeMOQtwJ6iD1DCPsvW 4m0Pw7xnfUyOxEXgFIMhwTqRmR1txkkF9AzvmH/4aCaf7YXRF4lO7+bKKyRqHION hwYdVsXSDNOcVW08elOFnGMw81dWhNkUJMEfYdhEKQw093s/y1JJZf1Mhp6+XF5Q 3BqM3tCqr92oddr3VKS3tnpiVLD4I9S3YC1+ObAtf+ejx3EjsruO1HV9t+2VwiBA HcqzLXK7RBYTVBquglxXfEvzyEUZr+wDvBOCSkMKb/QJjCPxMCnneulUqf+yIhYN SIg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=J+Icl7 uB3GZOQDqpLiH4V9OeHg5D3Ov7eNDVj6syhIs=; b=SFInLdWaBh0KOCi6Gjsx4c NuBitQRCpFgwvm98a5cqxSvkEHIQU5Noxbj9e9n78bTCFwO6dd0PVF5FiUbZMQdr 9QJ4882Gkt7A5kp9IWK9Q9D9xaYz97vi145iXiv2bWzCbljIuJxjjP1pj00yBpSr 1Q2vBGGLKVFM5TVBMqx3CLunXZo1f8irkcfwTVQPlD2UzDG3zvsWnIMCo4TlioCF Grl/tdlpQDLeUMCqgsL8ebvcwCsSVy+U7NR+/AKJaJu+fbiVtJWjkUBdWSlVsR5P sEzKfT/en8Pk3+RFqdvAel1FGypss+9fgswrCWjTRqKEF2l0fnK1qrwTccU7jCxA == X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvtddrudegvddgvdegucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne cujfgurhepfffhvffukfhfgggtuggjsehttdertddttddvnecuhfhrohhmpeflohhshhcu vfhrihhplhgvthhtuceojhhoshhhsehjohhshhhtrhhiphhlvghtthdrohhrgheqnecugg ftrfgrthhtvghrnhepgedtgfefgefhveeglefgfeeigeduueehkeektdeuueetgfehffev geeuieetheetnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrh homhepjhhoshhhsehjohhshhhtrhhiphhlvghtthdrohhrgh X-ME-Proxy: Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Fri, 10 Sep 2021 19:45:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2021 16:45:18 -0700 From: Josh Triplett To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab Cc: Jonathan Corbet , ksummit@lists.linux.dev Subject: Re: [MAINTAINER SUMMIT] User-space requirements for accelerator drivers Message-ID: References: <877dfop2lx.fsf@meer.lwn.net> <20210911005214.71b55ac6@coco.lan> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20210911005214.71b55ac6@coco.lan> On Sat, Sep 11, 2021 at 12:52:14AM +0200, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: > On media, enforcing userspace to always be open source would > have been very bad, as it would prevent several videoconferencing > software to exist on Linux. I don't think we should enforce that all userspace users of an interface be Open Source. I do think we should enforce that *some* userspace user of an interface be Open Source before we add the interface.