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From: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
To: Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org>
Cc: devicetree@vger.kernel.org, Tom Rini <trini@konsulko.com>,
	U-Boot Mailing List <u-boot@lists.denx.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] dt-bindings: u-boot: Add an initial binding for config
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2021 14:30:29 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YVtWVZDzhwMPnKj0@robh.at.kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211003125134.2.I7733f5a849476e908cc51f0c71b8a594337fbbdf@changeid>

On Sun, Oct 03, 2021 at 12:51:53PM -0600, Simon Glass wrote:
> U-Boot makes use of the devicetree for its driver model. Devices are bound
> based on the hardware description in the devicetree.
> 
> Since U-Boot is not an operating system, it has no command line or user
> space to provide configuration and policy information. This must be made
> available in some other way.
> 
> Therefore U-Boot uses devicetree for configuration and run-time control
> and has done for approximately 9 years. This works extremely well in the
> project and is very flexible. However the bindings have never been
> incorporated in the devicetree bindings in the Linux tree. This could be
> a good time to start this work as we try to create standard bindings for
> communicating between firmware components.
> 
> Add an initial binding for this node, covering just the config node, which
> is the main requirement. It is similar in concept to the chosen node, but
> used for passing information between firmware components, instead of from
> firmware to operating system.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org>
> ---
> Please be kind in your review. Some words about why this is needed are
> included in the description in config.yaml file.
> 
> The last attempt to add just one property needed by U-Boot went into the
> weeds 6 years ago, with what I see as confusion about the role of the
> chosen node in devicetree[1].
> 
> I am trying again in the hope of reaching resolution rather than just
> going around in circles with the 'devicetree is a hardware description'
> argument :-)
> 
> Quoting from the introduction to latest devicetree spec[2]:
> 
> >>>
> To initialize and boot a computer system, various software components
> interact. Firmware might perform low-level initialization of the system
> hardware before passing control to software such as an operating system,
> bootloader, or  hypervisor. Bootloaders and hypervisors can, in turn,
> load and transfer control to operating systems. Standard, consistent
> interfaces and conventions facilitate the interactions between these
> software components. In this document the term boot program is used to
> generically refer to a software component that initializes the system
> state and executes another software component referred to as a client
> program.
> <<<
> 
> This clearly envisages multiple software components in the firmware
> domain and in fact that is the case today. They need some way to
> communicate configuration data such as memory setup, runtime-feature
> selection and developer conveniences. Devicetree seems ideal, at least for
> components where the performance / memory requirements of devicetree are
> affordable.
> 
> I hope that the Linux community (which owns the devicetree bindings) finds
> this initiative valuable and acceptable.

Owns? I'm having a sale and can make you a good offer. Buy 1 binding, 
get 2000 free. :)

> 
> [1] https://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2015-July/218585.html
> [2] https://github.com/devicetree-org/devicetree-specification/releases/tag/v0.3
> 
>  .../devicetree/bindings/u-boot/config.yaml    | 137 ++++++++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 137 insertions(+)
>  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/u-boot/config.yaml

Might as well put this into dt-schema rather than the kernel. But might 
get more review here first.

> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/u-boot/config.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/u-boot/config.yaml
> new file mode 100644
> index 00000000000000..336577a17fdf5a
> --- /dev/null
> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/u-boot/config.yaml
> @@ -0,0 +1,137 @@
> +# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0 OR BSD-2-Clause)
> +%YAML 1.2
> +---
> +$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/u-boot/config.yaml#
> +$schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
> +
> +title: U-Boot configuration node
> +
> +maintainers:
> +  - Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org>
> +
> +description: |
> +  The config node does not represent a real device, but serves as a place
> +  for passing data between firmware elements, like memory maps. Data in the
> +  config node does not represent the hardware. It is ignored by operating
> +  systems.
> +
> +  Purpose of config node
> +  ----------------------
> +
> +  A common problem with firmware is that many builds are needed to deal with the
> +  slight variations between different, related models. For example, one model
> +  may have a TPM and another may not. Devicetree provides an excellent solution
> +  to this problem, in that the devicetree to actually use on a platform can be
> +  injected in the factory based on which model is being manufactured at the time.
> +
> +  A related problem causing build proliferation is dealing with the differences
> +  between development firmware, developer-friendly firmware (e.g. with all
> +  security features present but with the ability to access the command line),
> +  test firmware (which runs tests used in the factory), final production
> +  firmware (before signing), signed firmware (where the signatures have been
> +  inserted) and the like. Ideally all or most of these should use the same
> +  U-Boot build, with just some options to determine the features available. For
> +  example, being able to control whether the UART console or JTAG are available,
> +  on any image, is a great debugging aid.
> +
> +  When the firmware consists of multiple parts (various U-Boot phases, TF-A,
> +  OP-TEE), it is helpful that all operate the same way at runtime, regardless of
> +  how they were built. This can be achieved by passing the runtime configuration
> +  (e.g. 'enable UART console', 'here are your public keys') along the chain
> +  through each firmware stage. It is frustrating to have to replicate a bug on
> +  production firmware which does happen on developer firmware, because they are
> +  completely different builds.
> +
> +  The config node provides useful functionality for this. It allows the different
> +  controls to be 'factored out' of the U-Boot binary, so they can be controlled
> +  separately from the initial source-code build. The node can be easily updated
> +  by a build or factory tool and can control various features in U-Boot. It is
> +  similar in concept to a Kconfig option, except that it can be changed after
> +  U-Boot is built.
> +
> +  The config node is similar in concept to /chosen (see chosen.txt) except that

chosen.yaml now (in dt-schema).

> +  it is for passing information *into* and *between) firmware components,
> +  instead of from firmware to the Operating System. Also, while operating
> +  systems typically have a (sometimes extremely long) command line, U-Boot does
> +  not support this, except with sandbox. The devicetree provides a more
> +  structured approach in any case.

What about having a /chosen/u-boot/ node instead?

> +
> +properties:
> +
> +  compatible:
> +    enum:
> +      - "u-boot,config"

nit: don't need quotes.

> +
> +  bootcmd:
> +    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/string
> +    description: |
> +      Allows overwriting of the boot command used by U-Boot on startup. If
> +      present, U-Boot uses this command instead. Note that this feature can
> +      work even if loading the environment is disabled, e.g. for security
> +      reasons. See also bootsecure.
> +
> +  bootdelay:

bootdelay-sec

> +    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/int32

And then you don't need a type.

(Though we've defined '-sec' as unsigned, I think that's safe to change. 
In any case, signedness is kind of broken in the dts->dtc->yaml flow 
ATM.)

> +    description: |
> +      Allows selecting of the U-Boot bootdelay, to control whether U-Boot
> +      waits on boot or for how long. This allows this option to be configured
> +      by the build system or by a previous-stage binary. For example, if the
> +      images is being packed for testing or a user holds down a button, it may
> +      allow a delay, but disable it for production.
> +
> +      If this property is not present, a default value is used instead.
> +
> +      Values:
> +
> +      -1: no bootdelay and the user cannot interrupt boot
> +      0: no bootdelay but use user can still interrupt boot by holding down a
> +        key, if enabled
> +      >= 1: delay for this many seconds
> +
> +
> +  bootsecure:
> +    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/uint32
> +    description: |
> +      Controls the execution of the boot command in U-Boot, e.g. selecting
> +      between using a special function to run commands, or the normal CLI. This
> +      can be used in production images, to restrict the amount of parsing done
> +      or the options available, to cut back on the available surface for
> +      security attacks.
> +
> +      Values:
> +
> +      0: normal boot using CLI (default if not present)
> +      1: use secure boot mechanism instead to parse and run commands
> +        other values are reserved for future use
> +      2: use simplified command line (e.g. avoid hush)
> +      3... reserved

Add constraints:

default: 0
maximum: 2

> +
> +  silent-console:
> +    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/uint32
> +    description: |
> +      This allows the console to be silenced by default on boot. This can allow
> +      easy disabling of console output on a production build, for example. When
> +      suppressed, the console is still active. This feature only suppresses the
> +      console output itself, on all output devices.
> +
> +      Values:
> +
> +      0: console output appears as normal (default)
> +      1: console output is suppressed but console recording still operates (if
> +        enabled)
> +      2: console output is suppressed and not recorded

default: 0
maximum: 2

> +
> +required:
> +  - compatible
> +
> +additionalProperties: false
> +
> +examples:
> +  - |
> +    u-boot,config {
> +      compatible = "u-boot,config";
> +      bootcmd = "vboot go auto";
> +      bootdelay = <(-1)>;
> +      bootsecure = <1>;
> +      silent-console = <1>;
> +    };
> -- 
> 2.33.0.800.g4c38ced690-goog
> 
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-04 19:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-03 18:51 [PATCH 2/2] dt-bindings: u-boot: Add an initial binding for config Simon Glass
2021-10-04 19:30 ` Rob Herring [this message]
2021-10-12 13:41   ` Simon Glass
2021-10-12 15:05     ` Rob Herring
2021-10-13 16:32       ` Simon Glass
2021-10-18 22:26         ` Rob Herring
2021-10-20 22:44           ` Simon Glass
2021-10-21  8:51             ` Mark Kettenis
2021-10-24 14:38               ` Simon Glass
2021-10-27  2:37                 ` Rob Herring
2021-10-27 14:09                   ` Simon Glass
2021-11-04  2:03                     ` Simon Glass

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