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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
Cc: "Zefan Li" <lizefan.x@bytedance.com>,
	"Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"Shuah Khan" <shuah@kernel.org>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Roman Gushchin" <guro@fb.com>, "Phil Auld" <pauld@redhat.com>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Juri Lelli" <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	"Frederic Weisbecker" <frederic@kernel.org>,
	"Marcelo Tosatti" <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	"Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 6/7] cgroup/cpuset: Update description of cpuset.cpus.partition in cgroup-v2.rst
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2021 11:00:17 -1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Ybe0YWEo7Wp7wib9@slm.duckdns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211205183220.818872-7-longman@redhat.com>

Hello,

On Sun, Dec 05, 2021 at 01:32:19PM -0500, Waiman Long wrote:
> +	In the case of an invalid partition root, a descriptive string on
> +	why the partition is invalid is included within parentheses.
> +
> +	Almost all possible state transitions among "member", valid
> +	and invalid partition roots are allowed except from "member"
> +	to invalid partition root.

So, this part still bothers me for the following two reasons that I brought
up earlier:

* When a valid partition turns invalid, now we have a reliable way of
  discovering what exactly caused the transition. However, when a user now
  fails to turn a member into partition, all they get is -EINVAL and there's
  no way to discover why it failed and the failure conditions that -EINVAL
  represents aren't simple.

* In an automated configuration scenarios, this operation mode may be
  difficult to make reliable and lead to sporadic failures which can be
  tricky to track down. The core problem is that whether a given operation
  succeeds or not may depend on external states (CPU on/offline) which may
  change asynchronously in a way that the configuring entity doesn't have
  any control over.

It's true that both are existing problems with the current partition
interface and given that this is a pretty spcialized feature, this can be
okay. Michal, what are your thoughts?

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2021-12-13 21:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-05 18:32 [PATCH v9 0/7] cgroup/cpuset: Add new cpuset partition type & empty effecitve cpus Waiman Long
2021-12-05 18:32 ` [PATCH v9 1/7] cgroup/cpuset: Don't let child cpusets restrict parent in default hierarchy Waiman Long
2021-12-13 20:41   ` Tejun Heo
2021-12-15 12:23     ` Michal Koutný
2021-12-15 17:59       ` Waiman Long
2021-12-15 17:59         ` Waiman Long
2021-12-17 15:48         ` [PATCH] cgroup/cpuset: Make child cpusets restrict parents on v1 hierarchy Michal Koutný
2021-12-17 15:48           ` Michal Koutný
2021-12-17 16:34           ` Waiman Long
2022-01-12 21:25           ` Tejun Heo
2021-12-05 18:32 ` [PATCH v9 2/7] cgroup/cpuset: Allow no-task partition to have empty cpuset.cpus.effective Waiman Long
2021-12-05 18:32   ` Waiman Long
2021-12-13 20:45   ` Tejun Heo
2021-12-15  3:24     ` Waiman Long
2021-12-15  3:24       ` Waiman Long
2021-12-15 10:36       ` Michal Koutný
2021-12-05 18:32 ` [PATCH v9 3/7] cgroup/cpuset: Refining features and constraints of a partition Waiman Long
2021-12-15 14:49   ` Michal Koutný
2021-12-15 16:29     ` Waiman Long
2021-12-15 16:29       ` Waiman Long
2021-12-16  9:28       ` Michal Koutný
2021-12-05 18:32 ` [PATCH v9 4/7] cgroup/cpuset: Add a new isolated cpus.partition type Waiman Long
2022-01-12 15:21   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-01-12 15:40     ` Waiman Long
2022-01-12 15:40       ` Waiman Long
2022-01-12 21:23       ` Tejun Heo
2022-01-12 21:23         ` Tejun Heo
2021-12-05 18:32 ` [PATCH v9 5/7] cgroup/cpuset: Show invalid partition reason string Waiman Long
2021-12-05 18:32 ` [PATCH v9 6/7] cgroup/cpuset: Update description of cpuset.cpus.partition in cgroup-v2.rst Waiman Long
2021-12-13 21:00   ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2021-12-15 14:44     ` Michal Koutný
2021-12-15 14:44       ` Michal Koutný
2021-12-15 18:16       ` Waiman Long
2021-12-15 18:16         ` Waiman Long
2021-12-15 18:35         ` Tejun Heo
2021-12-15 18:35           ` Tejun Heo
2021-12-15 18:55           ` Waiman Long
2022-01-12 21:21             ` Tejun Heo
2022-01-12 21:21               ` Tejun Heo
2021-12-05 18:32 ` [PATCH v9 7/7] kselftest/cgroup: Add cpuset v2 partition root state test Waiman Long
2021-12-09 15:39 ` [PATCH v9 0/7] cgroup/cpuset: Add new cpuset partition type & empty effecitve cpus Waiman Long
2021-12-09 15:39   ` Waiman Long

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