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From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Dov Murik <dovmurik@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: "Tom Lendacky" <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
	"Ashish Kalra" <ashish.kalra@amd.com>,
	"Brijesh Singh" <brijesh.singh@amd.com>,
	"James Bottomley" <jejb@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Marcelo Tosatti" <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	"Tobin Feldman-Fitzthum" <tobin@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] docs: Add measurement calculation details to amd-memory-encryption.txt
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2021 16:09:49 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YbtkzdpERCnODpft@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <336cbad3-06da-f11c-8cd1-ca058dd9c6b0@linux.ibm.com>

On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 12:38:34PM +0200, Dov Murik wrote:
> 
> 
> On 14/12/2021 20:39, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 01:59:10PM +0000, Dov Murik wrote:
> >> Add a section explaining how the Guest Owner should calculate the
> >> expected guest launch measurement for SEV and SEV-ES.
> >>
> >> Also update the name and link to the SEV API Spec document.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Dov Murik <dovmurik@linux.ibm.com>
> >> Suggested-by: Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com>
> >> ---
> >>  docs/amd-memory-encryption.txt | 50 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---
> >>  1 file changed, 46 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
> >>
> >> diff --git a/docs/amd-memory-encryption.txt b/docs/amd-memory-encryption.txt
> >> index ffca382b5f..f97727482f 100644
> >> --- a/docs/amd-memory-encryption.txt
> >> +++ b/docs/amd-memory-encryption.txt
> >> @@ -43,7 +43,7 @@ The guest policy is passed as plaintext. A hypervisor may choose to read it,
> >>  but should not modify it (any modification of the policy bits will result
> >>  in bad measurement). The guest policy is a 4-byte data structure containing
> >>  several flags that restricts what can be done on a running SEV guest.
> >> -See KM Spec section 3 and 6.2 for more details.
> >> +See SEV API Spec [1] section 3 and 6.2 for more details.
> >>  
> >>  The guest policy can be provided via the 'policy' property (see below)
> >>  
> >> @@ -88,7 +88,7 @@ expects.
> >>  LAUNCH_FINISH finalizes the guest launch and destroys the cryptographic
> >>  context.
> >>  
> >> -See SEV KM API Spec [1] 'Launching a guest' usage flow (Appendix A) for the
> >> +See SEV API Spec [1] 'Launching a guest' usage flow (Appendix A) for the
> >>  complete flow chart.
> >>  
> >>  To launch a SEV guest
> >> @@ -113,6 +113,45 @@ a SEV-ES guest:
> >>   - Requires in-kernel irqchip - the burden is placed on the hypervisor to
> >>     manage booting APs.
> >>  
> >> +Calculating expected guest launch measurement
> >> +---------------------------------------------
> >> +In order to verify the guest launch measurement, The Guest Owner must compute
> >> +it in the exact same way as it is calculated by the AMD-SP.  SEV API Spec [1]
> >> +section 6.5.1 describes the AMD-SP operations:
> >> +
> >> +    GCTX.LD is finalized, producing the hash digest of all plaintext data
> >> +    imported into the guest.
> >> +
> >> +    The launch measurement is calculated as:
> >> +
> >> +    HMAC(0x04 || API_MAJOR || API_MINOR || BUILD || GCTX.POLICY || GCTX.LD || MNONCE; GCTX.TIK)
> >> +
> >> +    where "||" represents concatenation.
> >> +
> >> +The values of API_MAJOR, API_MINOR, BUILD, and GCTX.POLICY can be obtained
> >> +from the 'query-sev' qmp command.
> >> +
> >> +The value of MNONCE is part of the response of 'query-sev-launch-measure': it
> >> +is the last 16 bytes of the base64-decoded data field (see SEV API Spec [1]
> >> +section 6.5.2 Table 52: LAUNCH_MEASURE Measurement Buffer).
> >> +
> >> +The value of GCTX.LD is SHA256(firmware_blob || kernel_hashes_blob || vmsas_blob),
> >> +where:
> >> +
> >> +* firmware_blob is the content of the entire firmware flash file (for example,
> >> +  OVMF.fd).
> > 
> > Lets add a caveat that the firmware flash should be built to be stateless
> > ie that it is not secure to attempt to measure a guest where the firmware
> > uses an NVRAM store.
> > 
> 
> * firmware_blob is the content of the entire firmware flash file (for   
>   example, OVMF.fd).  Note that you must build a stateless firmware file    
>   which doesn't use an NVRAM store, because the NVRAM area is not
>   measured, and therefore it is not secure to use a firmware which uses 
>   state from an NVRAM store.

Looks good to me.

> >> +* if kernel is used, and kernel-hashes=on, then kernel_hashes_blob is the
> >> +  content of PaddedSevHashTable (including the zero padding), which itself
> >> +  includes the hashes of kernel, initrd, and cmdline that are passed to the
> >> +  guest.  The PaddedSevHashTable struct is defined in target/i386/sev.c .
> >> +* if SEV-ES is enabled (policy & 0x4 != 0), vmsas_blob is the concatenation of
> >> +  all VMSAs of the guest vcpus.  Each VMSA is 4096 bytes long; its content is
> >> +  defined inside Linux kernel code as struct vmcb_save_area, or in AMD APM
> >> +  Volume 2 [2] Table B-2: VMCB Layout, State Save Area.
> > 
> > Is there any practical guidance we can give apps on the way the VMSAs
> > can be expected to be initialized ? eg can they assume essentially
> > all fields in vmcb_save_area are 0 initialized except for certain
> > ones ? Is initialization likely to vary at all across KVM or EDK2
> > vesions or something ?
> 
> From my own experience, the VMSA of vcpu0 doesn't change; it is basically what QEMU
> sets up in x86_cpu_reset() (which is mostly zeros but not all).  I don't know if it
> may change in newer QEMU (machine types?) or kvm.  As for vcpu1+, in SEV-ES the
> CS:EIP for the APs is taken from a GUIDed table at the end of the OVMF image, and has
> actually changed a few months ago when the memory layout changed to support both TDX
> and SEV.

That is an unplesantly large number of moving parts that could
potentially impact the expected state :-(  I think we need to
be careful to avoid gratuitous changes, to avoid creating a
combinatorial expansion in the number of possibly valid VMSA
blocks.

It makes me wonder if we need to think about defining some
standard approach for distro vendors (and/or cloud vendors)
to publish the expected contents for various combinations
of their software pieces.

> 
> 
> Here are the VMSAs for my 2-vcpu SEV-ES VM:
> 
> 
> $ hd vmsa/vmsa_cpu0.bin

...snipp...

was there a nice approach / tool you used to capture
this initial state ?


Regards,
Daniel
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  reply	other threads:[~2021-12-16 16:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-14 13:59 [PATCH] docs: Add measurement calculation details to amd-memory-encryption.txt Dov Murik
2021-12-14 18:39 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-12-16 10:38   ` Dov Murik
2021-12-16 16:09     ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2021-12-16 21:41       ` Dov Murik
2021-12-17 13:24         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-01-07 20:18         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-01-10 11:17           ` Dov Murik
2022-01-10 11:26             ` Daniel P. Berrangé

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