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From: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
To: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org,
	Jean-Philippe Aumasson <jeanphilippe.aumasson@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] random: use BLAKE2s instead of SHA1 in extraction
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2021 10:52:17 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YcnhMS4Pgetififz@mit.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211223141113.1240679-2-Jason@zx2c4.com>

On Thu, Dec 23, 2021 at 03:11:13PM +0100, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
> This commit addresses one of the lower hanging fruits of the RNG: its
> usage of SHA1.
> 
> BLAKE2s is generally faster, and certainly more secure, than SHA1, which
> has [1] been [2] really [3] very [4] broken [5]. Additionally, the
> current construction in the RNG doesn't use the full SHA1 function, as
> specified, and allows overwriting the IV with RDRAND output in an
> undocumented way, even in the case when RDRAND isn't set to "trusted",
> which means potential malicious IV choices. And its short length means
> that keeping only half of it secret when feeding back into the mixer
> gives us only 2^80 bits of forward secrecy. In other words, not only is
> the choice of hash function dated, but the use of it isn't really great
> either.
> 
> This commit aims to fix both of these issues while also keeping the
> general structure and semantics as close to the original as possible.
> Specifically:
> 
>    a) Rather than overwriting the hash IV with RDRAND, we put it into
>       BLAKE2's documented "salt" and "personal" fields, which were
>       specifically created for this type of usage.
>    b) Since this function feeds the full hash result back into the
>       entropy collector, we only return from it half the length of the
>       hash, just as it was done before. This increases the
>       construction's forward secrecy from 2^80 to a much more
>       comfortable 2^128.
>    c) Rather than using the raw "sha1_transform" function alone, we
>       instead use the full proper BLAKE2s function, with finalization.
> 
> This also has the advantage of supplying 16 bytes at a time rather than
> SHA1's 10 bytes, which, in addition to having a faster compression
> function to begin with, means faster extraction in general. On an Intel
> i7-11850H, this commit makes initial seeding around 131% faster.
> 
> BLAKE2s itself has the nice property of internally being based on the
> ChaCha permutation, which the RNG is already using for expansion, so
> there shouldn't be any issue with newness, funkiness, or surprising CPU
> behavior, since it's based on something already in use.
> 
> [1] https://eprint.iacr.org/2005/010.pdf
> [2] https://www.iacr.org/archive/crypto2005/36210017/36210017.pdf
> [3] https://eprint.iacr.org/2015/967.pdf
> [4] https://shattered.io/static/shattered.pdf
> [5] https://www.usenix.org/system/files/sec20-leurent.pdf
> 
> Reviewed-by: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
> Reviewed-by: Jean-Philippe Aumasson <jeanphilippe.aumasson@gmail.com>
> Signed-off-by: Jason A. Donenfeld <Jason@zx2c4.com>

Looks good, thanks for the work!

Reviewed-by: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>

						- Ted

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-12-27 15:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-23 14:11 [PATCH v2 1/2] lib/crypto: blake2s: include as built-in Jason A. Donenfeld
2021-12-23 14:11 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] random: use BLAKE2s instead of SHA1 in extraction Jason A. Donenfeld
2021-12-24 20:56   ` Eric Biggers
2022-01-05 21:42     ` Eric Biggers
2021-12-27 15:52   ` Theodore Ts'o [this message]
2022-01-11 11:38   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-11 12:28     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-11 12:50       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-11 12:57         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-11 13:00           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-11 15:46         ` David Laight
2022-01-11 18:26           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-14 17:27         ` David Laight
2022-01-14 17:31           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-11 12:51       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-11 13:02         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-11 13:49           ` [PATCH crypto 0/2] smaller blake2s code size on m68k and other small platforms Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-11 13:49             ` [PATCH crypto 1/2] lib/crypto: blake2s-generic: reduce code size on small systems Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-12 10:57               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-12 13:16                 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-12 18:31               ` Eric Biggers
2022-01-12 18:50                 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-12 21:27                   ` David Laight
2022-01-12 22:00                     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-11 13:49             ` [PATCH crypto 2/2] lib/crypto: blake2s: move hmac construction into wireguard Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-11 14:43               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-01-12 18:35               ` Eric Biggers
2022-01-11 18:10             ` [PATCH crypto v2 0/2] reduce code size from blake2s on m68k and other small platforms Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-11 18:10               ` [PATCH crypto v2 1/2] lib/crypto: blake2s: move hmac construction into wireguard Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-11 18:10               ` [PATCH crypto v2 2/2] lib/crypto: sha1: re-roll loops to reduce code size Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-11 22:05               ` [PATCH crypto v3 0/2] reduce code size from blake2s on m68k and other small platforms Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-11 22:05                 ` [PATCH crypto v3 1/2] lib/crypto: blake2s: move hmac construction into wireguard Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-11 22:05                 ` [PATCH crypto v3 2/2] lib/crypto: sha1: re-roll loops to reduce code size Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-12 10:59                 ` [PATCH crypto v3 0/2] reduce code size from blake2s on m68k and other small platforms Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-12 13:18                   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-18  6:42                     ` Herbert Xu
2022-01-18 11:43                       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-18 12:44                         ` David Laight
2022-01-18 12:50                           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2021-12-23 14:20 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] lib/crypto: blake2s: include as built-in Ard Biesheuvel
2021-12-24 13:35 ` Greg KH
2021-12-25  9:26 ` Masahiro Yamada
2021-12-25 10:26   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-12-25 15:47     ` Masahiro Yamada
2021-12-27 13:43       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2021-12-27 13:47         ` [PATCH v3] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2021-12-27 14:20           ` [PATCH v4] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-01 15:59             ` [PATCH v5] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-02 20:42               ` [PATCH v6] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-03  3:23                 ` Herbert Xu
2022-01-03  3:45                   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-03  4:06                     ` Herbert Xu
2022-01-03 11:57                       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-03 12:31                         ` [PATCH v7] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-04  1:21                           ` Herbert Xu
2022-01-04 17:02                             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-01-04 17:04                               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-05  0:28                               ` Herbert Xu
2022-01-05 21:53                               ` Eric Biggers
2022-01-05 22:01                                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-01-05 22:09                                   ` Eric Biggers

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