From: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org>
To: Haitao Huang <haitao.huang@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, tglx@linutronix.de, bp@alien8.de,
mingo@redhat.com, linux-sgx@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
seanjc@google.com, kai.huang@intel.com, cathy.zhang@intel.com,
cedric.xing@intel.com, haitao.huang@intel.com,
mark.shanahan@intel.com, hpa@zytor.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/25] x86/sgx: Introduce runtime protection bits
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2022 17:51:43 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YdmzDy1BOHgh8CII@iki.fi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YdmxpTVM1JG8nxQ3@iki.fi>
On Sat, Jan 08, 2022 at 05:45:44PM +0200, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 07, 2022 at 10:14:29AM -0600, Haitao Huang wrote:
> > > > > OK, so the question is: do we need both or would a mechanism just
> > > > to extend
> > > > > permissions be sufficient?
> > > >
> > > > I do believe that we need both in order to support pages having only
> > > > the permissions required to support their intended use during the
> > > > time the
> > > > particular access is required. While technically it is possible to grant
> > > > pages all permissions they may need during their lifetime it is safer to
> > > > remove permissions when no longer required.
> > >
> > > So if we imagine a run-time: how EMODPR would be useful, and how using it
> > > would make things safer?
> > >
> > In scenarios of JIT compilers, once code is generated into RW pages,
> > modifying both PTE and EPCM permissions to RX would be a good defensive
> > measure. In that case, EMODPR is useful.
>
> What is the exact threat we are talking about?
To add: it should be *significantly* critical thread, given that not
supporting only EAUG would leave us only one complex call pattern with
EACCEPT involvement.
I'd even go to suggest to leave EMODPR out of the patch set, and introduce
it when there is PoC code for any of the existing run-time that
demonstrates the demand for it. Right now this way too speculative.
Supporting EMODPE is IMHO by factors more critical.
/Jarkko
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-01-08 15:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 155+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-12-01 19:22 [PATCH 00/25] x86/sgx and selftests/sgx: Support SGX2 Reinette Chatre
2021-12-01 19:22 ` [PATCH 01/25] x86/sgx: Add shortlog descriptions to ENCLS wrappers Reinette Chatre
2021-12-04 18:30 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-12-06 21:13 ` Reinette Chatre
2021-12-11 5:28 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-12-13 22:06 ` Reinette Chatre
2021-12-01 19:23 ` [PATCH 02/25] x86/sgx: Add wrappers for SGX2 functions Reinette Chatre
2021-12-04 22:04 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-12-06 21:15 ` Reinette Chatre
2021-12-01 19:23 ` [PATCH 03/25] x86/sgx: Support VMA permissions exceeding enclave permissions Reinette Chatre
2021-12-04 22:25 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-12-04 22:27 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-12-06 21:16 ` Reinette Chatre
2021-12-11 5:39 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-12-13 22:08 ` Reinette Chatre
2021-12-01 19:23 ` [PATCH 04/25] x86/sgx: Add pfn_mkwrite() handler for present PTEs Reinette Chatre
2021-12-04 22:43 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-12-06 21:18 ` Reinette Chatre
2021-12-11 7:37 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-12-13 22:09 ` Reinette Chatre
2021-12-28 14:51 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-12-01 19:23 ` [PATCH 05/25] x86/sgx: Introduce runtime protection bits Reinette Chatre
2021-12-03 19:28 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-12-03 22:12 ` Reinette Chatre
2021-12-04 0:38 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-12-04 1:14 ` Reinette Chatre
2021-12-04 17:56 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-12-04 23:55 ` Reinette Chatre
2021-12-13 22:34 ` Reinette Chatre
2021-12-04 23:57 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-12-06 21:20 ` Reinette Chatre
2021-12-11 7:42 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-12-13 22:10 ` Reinette Chatre
2021-12-28 14:52 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-01-06 17:46 ` Reinette Chatre
2022-01-07 12:16 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-01-07 16:14 ` Haitao Huang
2022-01-08 15:45 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-01-08 15:51 ` Jarkko Sakkinen [this message]
2022-01-08 16:22 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-01-10 22:05 ` Haitao Huang
2022-01-11 1:53 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-01-11 1:55 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-01-11 2:03 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-01-11 2:15 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-01-11 3:48 ` Haitao Huang
2022-01-12 23:48 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-01-13 2:41 ` Haitao Huang
2022-01-14 21:36 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-01-11 17:13 ` Reinette Chatre
2022-01-12 23:50 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-01-12 23:56 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-01-13 20:09 ` Nathaniel McCallum
2022-01-13 21:42 ` Reinette Chatre
2022-01-14 21:53 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-01-14 21:57 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-01-14 22:00 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-01-14 22:17 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-01-14 22:23 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-01-14 22:34 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-01-14 23:05 ` Reinette Chatre
2022-01-14 23:15 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-01-15 0:01 ` Reinette Chatre
2022-01-15 0:27 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-01-15 0:41 ` Reinette Chatre
2022-01-15 1:18 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-01-15 11:56 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-01-15 11:59 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-01-17 13:13 ` Nathaniel McCallum
2022-01-18 1:59 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-01-18 2:22 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-01-18 3:31 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-01-18 20:59 ` Reinette Chatre
2022-01-20 12:53 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-01-20 16:52 ` Reinette Chatre
2022-01-26 14:41 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-01-15 16:49 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-01-18 21:18 ` Reinette Chatre
2022-01-17 13:27 ` Nathaniel McCallum
2022-01-18 21:11 ` Reinette Chatre
2021-12-04 22:50 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-12-06 21:28 ` Reinette Chatre
2021-12-01 19:23 ` [PATCH 06/25] x86/sgx: Use more generic name for enclave cpumask function Reinette Chatre
2021-12-04 22:56 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-12-06 21:29 ` Reinette Chatre
2021-12-01 19:23 ` [PATCH 07/25] x86/sgx: Move PTE zap code to separate function Reinette Chatre
2021-12-04 22:59 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-12-06 21:30 ` Reinette Chatre
2021-12-11 7:52 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-12-13 22:11 ` Reinette Chatre
2021-12-28 14:55 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-01-06 17:46 ` Reinette Chatre
2022-01-07 12:26 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-12-01 19:23 ` [PATCH 08/25] x86/sgx: Make SGX IPI callback available internally Reinette Chatre
2021-12-04 23:00 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-12-06 21:36 ` Reinette Chatre
2021-12-11 7:53 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-12-01 19:23 ` [PATCH 09/25] x86/sgx: Keep record of SGX page type Reinette Chatre
2021-12-04 23:03 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-12-01 19:23 ` [PATCH 10/25] x86/sgx: Support enclave page permission changes Reinette Chatre
2021-12-02 23:48 ` Dave Hansen
2021-12-03 18:18 ` Reinette Chatre
2021-12-03 0:32 ` Dave Hansen
2021-12-03 18:18 ` Reinette Chatre
2021-12-03 18:14 ` Dave Hansen
2021-12-03 18:49 ` Reinette Chatre
2021-12-03 19:38 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-12-03 22:34 ` Reinette Chatre
2021-12-04 0:42 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-12-04 1:35 ` Reinette Chatre
2021-12-04 23:08 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-12-06 20:19 ` Dave Hansen
2021-12-11 5:17 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-12-06 21:42 ` Reinette Chatre
2021-12-11 7:57 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-12-13 22:12 ` Reinette Chatre
2021-12-28 14:56 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-12-01 19:23 ` [PATCH 11/25] selftests/sgx: Add test for EPCM " Reinette Chatre
2021-12-01 19:23 ` [PATCH 12/25] selftests/sgx: Add test for TCS page " Reinette Chatre
2021-12-01 19:23 ` [PATCH 13/25] x86/sgx: Support adding of pages to initialized enclave Reinette Chatre
2021-12-03 0:38 ` Dave Hansen
2021-12-03 18:47 ` Reinette Chatre
2021-12-04 23:13 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-12-06 21:44 ` Reinette Chatre
2021-12-11 8:00 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-12-13 22:12 ` Reinette Chatre
2021-12-28 14:57 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-03-01 15:13 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-03-01 17:08 ` Reinette Chatre
2021-12-01 19:23 ` [PATCH 14/25] x86/sgx: Tighten accessible memory range after enclave initialization Reinette Chatre
2021-12-04 23:14 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-12-06 21:45 ` Reinette Chatre
2021-12-11 8:01 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-12-01 19:23 ` [PATCH 15/25] selftests/sgx: Test two different SGX2 EAUG flows Reinette Chatre
2021-12-01 19:23 ` [PATCH 16/25] x86/sgx: Support modifying SGX page type Reinette Chatre
2021-12-04 23:45 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-12-06 21:48 ` Reinette Chatre
2021-12-11 8:02 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-12-13 17:43 ` Dave Hansen
2021-12-21 8:52 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-12-01 19:23 ` [PATCH 17/25] x86/sgx: Support complete page removal Reinette Chatre
2021-12-04 23:45 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-12-06 21:49 ` Reinette Chatre
2021-12-01 19:23 ` [PATCH 18/25] selftests/sgx: Introduce dynamic entry point Reinette Chatre
2021-12-01 19:23 ` [PATCH 19/25] selftests/sgx: Introduce TCS initialization enclave operation Reinette Chatre
2021-12-01 19:23 ` [PATCH 20/25] selftests/sgx: Test complete changing of page type flow Reinette Chatre
2021-12-01 19:23 ` [PATCH 21/25] selftests/sgx: Test faulty enclave behavior Reinette Chatre
2021-12-01 19:23 ` [PATCH 22/25] selftests/sgx: Test invalid access to removed enclave page Reinette Chatre
2021-12-01 19:23 ` [PATCH 23/25] selftests/sgx: Test reclaiming of untouched page Reinette Chatre
2021-12-01 19:23 ` [PATCH 24/25] x86/sgx: Free up EPC pages directly to support large page ranges Reinette Chatre
2021-12-04 23:47 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-12-06 22:07 ` Reinette Chatre
2021-12-01 19:23 ` [PATCH 25/25] selftests/sgx: Page removal stress test Reinette Chatre
2021-12-02 18:30 ` [PATCH 00/25] x86/sgx and selftests/sgx: Support SGX2 Dave Hansen
2021-12-02 20:38 ` Nathaniel McCallum
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