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[82.30.61.225]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v18sm15677871wrm.105.2022.02.10.09.27.39 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 10 Feb 2022 09:27:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 17:27:37 +0000 From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" To: Daniel =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=2E_Berrang=E9?= Subject: Re: [PATCH] Deprecate C virtiofsd Message-ID: References: <20220209165040.56062-1-dgilbert@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/2.1.5 (2021-12-30) Authentication-Results: relay.mimecast.com; auth=pass smtp.auth=CUSA124A263 smtp.mailfrom=dgilbert@redhat.com X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 X-Mimecast-Originator: redhat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=170.10.133.124; envelope-from=dgilbert@redhat.com; helo=us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: virtio-fs@redhat.com, slp@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, stefanha@redhat.com, vgoyal@redhat.com Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: "Qemu-devel" * Daniel P. Berrangé (berrange@redhat.com) wrote: > On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 05:13:19PM +0000, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote: > > * Daniel P. Berrangé (berrange@redhat.com) wrote: > > > On Wed, Feb 09, 2022 at 04:50:40PM +0000, Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git) wrote: > > > > From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" > > > > > > > > There's a nice new Rust implementation out there; recommend people > > > > do new work on that. > > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Dr. David Alan Gilbert > > > > --- > > > > docs/about/deprecated.rst | 14 ++++++++++++++ > > > > 1 file changed, 14 insertions(+) > > > > > > > > diff --git a/docs/about/deprecated.rst b/docs/about/deprecated.rst > > > > index 47a594a3b6..3a0e15f8f5 100644 > > > > --- a/docs/about/deprecated.rst > > > > +++ b/docs/about/deprecated.rst > > > > @@ -454,3 +454,17 @@ nanoMIPS ISA > > > > > > > > The ``nanoMIPS`` ISA has never been upstreamed to any compiler toolchain. > > > > As it is hard to generate binaries for it, declare it deprecated. > > > > + > > > > +Tools > > > > +----- > > > > + > > > > +virtiofsd > > > > +''''''''' > > > > + > > > > +There is a new Rust implementation of ``virtiofs`` at > > > > +``https://gitlab.com/virtio-fs/virtiofsd``; > > > > +since this is now marked stable, new development should be done on that > > > > +rather than the existing C version in the QEMU tree. > > > > +The C version will still accept fixes and patches that > > > > +are already in development for the moment. > > > > > > Just to be clear, 'deprecation' is usually expected to turn into > > > 'deletion' a minimum of 2 releases later. We are targetting the > > > C virtiofsd to be deleted, right ? The last sentance here gives > > > vibes that we're expecting it to stick around despite deprecation. > > > > I am targeting it to be deleted, but I'm expecting to give it a bit > > more time than 2 releases; how do I do that? > > You can forget to remove it after 2 releases, which is what > happens with many deprecations :-) '2' is really just the > minimum bar in practice. OK, I can remember to forget. Dave > Regards, > Daniel > -- > |: https://berrange.com -o- https://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange :| > |: https://libvirt.org -o- https://fstop138.berrange.com :| > |: https://entangle-photo.org -o- https://www.instagram.com/dberrange :| > -- Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 17:27:37 +0000 From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" Message-ID: References: <20220209165040.56062-1-dgilbert@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Virtio-fs] [PATCH] Deprecate C virtiofsd List-Id: Development discussions about virtio-fs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Daniel =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=2E_Berrang=E9?= Cc: virtio-fs@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, vgoyal@redhat.com * Daniel P. Berrang=E9 (berrange@redhat.com) wrote: > On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 05:13:19PM +0000, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote: > > * Daniel P. Berrang=E9 (berrange@redhat.com) wrote: > > > On Wed, Feb 09, 2022 at 04:50:40PM +0000, Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git= ) wrote: > > > > From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" > > > >=20 > > > > There's a nice new Rust implementation out there; recommend people > > > > do new work on that. > > > >=20 > > > > Signed-off-by: Dr. David Alan Gilbert > > > > --- > > > > docs/about/deprecated.rst | 14 ++++++++++++++ > > > > 1 file changed, 14 insertions(+) > > > >=20 > > > > diff --git a/docs/about/deprecated.rst b/docs/about/deprecated.rst > > > > index 47a594a3b6..3a0e15f8f5 100644 > > > > --- a/docs/about/deprecated.rst > > > > +++ b/docs/about/deprecated.rst > > > > @@ -454,3 +454,17 @@ nanoMIPS ISA > > > > =20 > > > > The ``nanoMIPS`` ISA has never been upstreamed to any compiler too= lchain. > > > > As it is hard to generate binaries for it, declare it deprecated. > > > > + > > > > +Tools > > > > +----- > > > > + > > > > +virtiofsd > > > > +''''''''' > > > > + > > > > +There is a new Rust implementation of ``virtiofs`` at > > > > +``https://gitlab.com/virtio-fs/virtiofsd``; > > > > +since this is now marked stable, new development should be done on= that > > > > +rather than the existing C version in the QEMU tree. > > > > +The C version will still accept fixes and patches that > > > > +are already in development for the moment. > > >=20 > > > Just to be clear, 'deprecation' is usually expected to turn into > > > 'deletion' a minimum of 2 releases later. We are targetting the > > > C virtiofsd to be deleted, right ? The last sentance here gives > > > vibes that we're expecting it to stick around despite deprecation. > >=20 > > I am targeting it to be deleted, but I'm expecting to give it a bit > > more time than 2 releases; how do I do that? >=20 > You can forget to remove it after 2 releases, which is what > happens with many deprecations :-) '2' is really just the > minimum bar in practice. OK, I can remember to forget. Dave > Regards, > Daniel > --=20 > |: https://berrange.com -o- https://www.flickr.com/photos/dberran= ge :| > |: https://libvirt.org -o- https://fstop138.berrange.c= om :| > |: https://entangle-photo.org -o- https://www.instagram.com/dberran= ge :| >=20 --=20 Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK