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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
Cc: x86@kernel.org, joao@overdrivepizza.com, hjl.tools@gmail.com,
	andrew.cooper3@citrix.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	ndesaulniers@google.com, keescook@chromium.org,
	samitolvanen@google.com, mark.rutland@arm.com,
	alyssa.milburn@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 21/29] objtool: Rename --duplicate to --lto
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2022 12:05:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YhysYkcfwLr68Job@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220226214802.4chmsrtstlerefmu@treble>

On Sat, Feb 26, 2022 at 01:48:02PM -0800, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 26, 2022 at 11:42:13AM -0800, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> > > +	OPT_BOOLEAN(0, "lto", &lto, "whole-archive like runs"),
> > 
> > "--lto" is a confusing name, since this "feature" isn't specific to LTO.
> > 
> > Also, it gives no indication of what it actually does.
> >
> > What it does is, run objtool on vmlinux or module just like it's a
> > normal object, and *don't* do noinstr validation.  Right?

How about --whole-archive, much like the linker then?

The distinction is that we run objtool *only* on vmlinux and modules and
not also on the individual .o files.

There's 3 models:

 A) every translation unit
    (module parts get --module)

 B) every translation unit + shallow vmlinux
    (module parts get --module, vmlinux.o gets --vmlinux)

 C) vmlinux + modules
    (modules get --module, vmlinux.o gets --vmlinux
    --duplicate/lto/whole-archive, pick your poison).


objtool started out with (A); then for noinstr validation I added a
shallow vmlinux pass that *only* checks .noinstr.text and .entry.text
for escapes (B). This is to not unduly add time to the slowest (single
threaded) part of the kernel build, linking vmlinux.

Then CLANG_LTO added (C), due to LTO there simply isn't asm to poke at
until the whole-archive thing. But this means that the vmlinux run needs
to do all validation, not only the shallow noinstr validation.
--duplicate was added there, a bad name because it really doesn't do
duplicate work, it's the first and only objtool run (it's only duplicate
if you also run on each TU, but we don't do that).

Now with these patches I need whole-archive objtool passes and instead
of making a 4th mode, or extend (B), I chose to just bite the bullet and
go full LTO style (C).

Now, I figured it would be good to have a flag to indicate we're running
LTO style and --duplicate is more or less that, except for the terrible
name.

> > It's weird for the noinstr-only-mode to be the default.
> > 
> > BTW "--duplicate" had similar problems...
> > 
> > So how about:
> > 
> > - Default to normal mode on vmlinux/module, i.e. validate and/or
> >   generate ORC like any other object.  This default is more logically
> >   consistent and makes sense for the future once we get around to
> >   parallelizing objtool.
> > 
> > - Have "--noinstr", which does noinstr validation, in addition to all
> >   the other objtool validation/generation.  So it's additive, like any
> >   other cmdline option.  (Maybe this option isn't necessarily needed for
> >   now.)
> 
> It just dawned on me that "--noinstr" already exists.  But I'm
> scratching my head trying to figure out the difference between
> "--noinstr" and omitting "--lto".

If you run: "objtool check --vmlinux --noinstr vmlinux.o", it'll only do
the shallow .noinstr.text/.entry.text checks. If OTOH you do: "objtool
check --vmlinux --noinstr --lto vmlinux.o" it'll do everything
(including noinstr).

Similarlt, "--module --lto" will come to mean whole module (which is
currently not distinguishable from a regular module part run).

(barring the possible 's/--lto/--whole-archive/' rename proposed up top)



  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-28 11:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-18 16:49 [PATCH 00/29] x86: Kernel IBT Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 01/29] static_call: Avoid building empty .static_call_sites Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 02/29] x86/module: Fix the paravirt vs alternative order Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 20:28   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-02-18 21:22     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 23:28       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 03/29] objtool: Add --dry-run Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 04/29] x86/livepatch: Validate __fentry__ location Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 21:08   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-02-23 10:09     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-23 10:21       ` Miroslav Benes
2022-02-23 10:57       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-23 12:41         ` Steven Rostedt
2022-02-23 14:05           ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-23 14:16             ` Steven Rostedt
2022-02-23 14:23           ` Steven Rostedt
2022-02-23 14:33             ` Steven Rostedt
2022-02-23 14:49             ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-23 15:54               ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 05/29] x86: Base IBT bits Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 20:49   ` Andrew Cooper
2022-02-18 21:11     ` David Laight
2022-02-18 21:24       ` Andrew Cooper
2022-02-18 22:37         ` David Laight
2022-02-18 21:26     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 21:14   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-02-18 21:21     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 22:12   ` Joao Moreira
2022-02-19  1:07   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 06/29] x86/ibt: Add ANNOTATE_NOENDBR Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 07/29] x86/entry: Sprinkle ENDBR dust Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-19  0:23   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-02-19 23:08     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-19  0:36   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 08/29] x86/linkage: Add ENDBR to SYM_FUNC_START*() Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 09/29] x86/ibt,paravirt: Sprinkle ENDBR Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 10/29] x86/bpf: Add ENDBR instructions to prologue Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 11/29] x86/ibt,crypto: Add ENDBR for the jump-table entries Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 12/29] x86/ibt,kvm: Add ENDBR to fastops Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 13/29] x86/ibt,ftrace: Add ENDBR to samples/ftrace Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 14/29] x86/ibt: Add IBT feature, MSR and #CP handling Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 19:31   ` Andrew Cooper
2022-02-18 21:15     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-19  1:20   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-02-19  1:21   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-02-19  9:24     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-21  8:24   ` Kees Cook
2022-02-22  4:38   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-02-22  9:32     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 15/29] x86: Disable IBT around firmware Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-21  8:27   ` Kees Cook
2022-02-21 10:06     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-21 13:22       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-21 15:54       ` Kees Cook
2022-02-21 16:10         ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 16/29] x86/bugs: Disable Retpoline when IBT Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-19  2:15   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-02-22 15:00     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-25  0:19       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 17/29] x86/ibt: Annotate text references Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-19  5:22   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-02-19  9:39     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 18/29] x86/ibt,ftrace: Annotate ftrace code patching Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 19/29] x86/ibt,xen: Annotate away warnings Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 20:24   ` Andrew Cooper
2022-02-18 21:05     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 23:07       ` Andrew Cooper
2022-02-21 14:20         ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 20/29] x86/ibt,sev: Annotations Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 21/29] objtool: Rename --duplicate to --lto Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-26 19:42   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-02-26 21:48     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-02-28 11:05       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2022-02-28 18:32         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-02-28 20:09           ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-28 20:18             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-03-01 14:19               ` Miroslav Benes
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 22/29] Kbuild: Prepare !CLANG whole module objtool Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 23/29] objtool: Read the NOENDBR annotation Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 24/29] x86/text-patching: Make text_gen_insn() IBT aware Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-24  1:18   ` Joao Moreira
2022-02-24  9:10     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 25/29] x86/ibt: Dont generate ENDBR in .discard.text Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 26/29] objtool: Add IBT validation / fixups Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 27/29] x86/ibt: Finish --ibt-fix-direct on module loading Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 28/29] x86/ibt: Ensure module init/exit points have references Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 29/29] x86/alternative: Use .ibt_endbr_sites to seal indirect calls Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-19  1:29 ` [PATCH 00/29] x86: Kernel IBT Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-02-19  9:58   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-19 16:00     ` Andrew Cooper
2022-02-21  8:42     ` Kees Cook
2022-02-21  9:24       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-23  7:26   ` Kees Cook
2022-02-24 16:47     ` Mike Rapoport

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