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From: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	patrice.chotard@foss.st.com,
	Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>,
	markhemm@googlemail.com, Lukas Czerner <lczerner@redhat.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
	Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	patches@lists.linux.dev, Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	mm-commits@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 02/14] tmpfs: fix regressions from wider use of ZERO_PAGE
Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2022 08:36:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Ylpj9of+CP4ipDtm@zn.tnic> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wh=Mu_EYhtOmPn6AxoQZyEh-4fo2Zx3G7rBv1g7vwoKiw@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 03:10:51PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> Adding PeterZ and Borislav (who seem to be the last ones to have
> worked on the copy and clear_page stuff respectively) and the x86
> maintainers in case somebody gets the urge to just fix this.

I guess if enough people ask and keep asking, some people at least try
to move...

> Because memory clearing should be faster than copying, and the thing
> that makes copying fast is that FSRM and ERMS logic (the whole
> "manually unrolled copy" is hopefully mostly a thing of the past and
> we can consider it legacy)

So I did give it a look and it seems to me, if we want to do the
alternatives thing here, it will have to look something like
arch/x86/lib/copy_user_64.S.

I.e., the current __clear_user() will have to become the "handle_tail"
thing there which deals with uncopied rest-bytes at the end and the new
fsrm/erms/rep_good variants will then be alternative_call_2 or _3.

The fsrm thing will have only the handle_tail thing at the end when size
!= 0.

The others - erms and rep_good - will have to check for sizes smaller
than, say a cacheline, and for those call the handle_tail thing directly
instead of going into a REP loop. The current __clear_user() is still a
lot better than that copy_user_generic_unrolled() abomination. And it's
not like old CPUs would get any perf penalty - they'll simply use the
same code.

And then you need the labels for _ASM_EXTABLE_UA() exception handling.

Anyway, something along those lines.

And then we'll need to benchmark this on a bunch of current machines to
make sure there's no funny surprises, perf-wise.

I can get cracking on this but I would advise people not to hold their
breaths. :)

Unless someone has a better idea or is itching to get hands dirty
her-/himself.

Thx.

-- 
Regards/Gruss,
    Boris.

https://people.kernel.org/tglx/notes-about-netiquette

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-04-16  6:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-15  2:12 incoming Andrew Morton
2022-04-15  2:13 ` [patch 01/14] MAINTAINERS: Broadcom internal lists aren't maintainers Andrew Morton
2022-04-15  2:13   ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-15  2:13 ` [patch 02/14] tmpfs: fix regressions from wider use of ZERO_PAGE Andrew Morton
2022-04-15  2:13   ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-15 22:10   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-04-15 22:21     ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-04-15 22:41     ` Hugh Dickins
2022-04-16  6:36     ` Borislav Petkov [this message]
2022-04-16 14:07       ` Mark Hemment
2022-04-16 17:28         ` Borislav Petkov
2022-04-16 17:42           ` Linus Torvalds
2022-04-16 21:15             ` Borislav Petkov
2022-04-17 19:41               ` Borislav Petkov
2022-04-17 20:56                 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-04-18 10:15                   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-04-18 17:10                     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-04-19  9:17                       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-04-19 16:41                         ` Linus Torvalds
2022-04-19 17:48                           ` Borislav Petkov
2022-04-21 15:06                             ` Borislav Petkov
2022-04-21 16:50                               ` Linus Torvalds
2022-04-21 17:22                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-04-24 19:37                                   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-04-24 19:54                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-04-24 20:24                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2022-04-27  0:14                                       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-04-27  1:29                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2022-04-27 10:41                                           ` Borislav Petkov
2022-04-27 16:00                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2022-05-04 18:56                                               ` Borislav Petkov
2022-05-04 19:22                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-05-04 20:18                                                   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-05-04 20:40                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-05-04 21:01                                                       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-05-04 21:09                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2022-05-10  9:31                                                           ` clear_user (was: [patch 02/14] tmpfs: fix regressions from wider use of ZERO_PAGE) Borislav Petkov
2022-05-10 17:17                                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2022-05-10 17:28                                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2022-05-10 18:10                                                               ` Borislav Petkov
2022-05-10 18:57                                                                 ` Borislav Petkov
2022-05-24 12:32                                                                   ` [PATCH] x86/clear_user: Make it faster Borislav Petkov
2022-05-24 16:51                                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-05-24 17:30                                                                       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-05-25 12:11                                                                     ` Mark Hemment
2022-05-27 11:28                                                                       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-05-27 11:10                                                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2022-06-22 14:21                                                                     ` Borislav Petkov
2022-06-22 15:06                                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2022-06-22 20:14                                                                         ` Borislav Petkov
2022-06-22 21:07                                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2022-06-23  9:41                                                                             ` Borislav Petkov
2022-07-05 17:01                                                                               ` [PATCH -final] " Borislav Petkov
2022-07-06  9:24                                                                                 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2022-07-11 10:33                                                                                   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-07-12 12:32                                                                                     ` Alexey Dobriyan
2022-08-06 12:49                                                                                       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-08-18 10:44     ` [tip: x86/cpu] " tip-bot2 for Borislav Petkov
2022-04-15  2:13 ` [patch 03/14] mm/secretmem: fix panic when growing a memfd_secret Andrew Morton
2022-04-15  2:13   ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-15  2:13 ` [patch 04/14] irq_work: use kasan_record_aux_stack_noalloc() record callstack Andrew Morton
2022-04-15  2:13   ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-15  2:13 ` [patch 05/14] kasan: fix hw tags enablement when KUNIT tests are disabled Andrew Morton
2022-04-15  2:13   ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-15  2:13 ` [patch 06/14] mm, kfence: support kmem_dump_obj() for KFENCE objects Andrew Morton
2022-04-15  2:13   ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-15  2:13 ` [patch 07/14] mm, page_alloc: fix build_zonerefs_node() Andrew Morton
2022-04-15  2:13   ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-15  2:13 ` [patch 08/14] mm: fix unexpected zeroed page mapping with zram swap Andrew Morton
2022-04-15  2:13   ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-15  2:13 ` [patch 09/14] mm: compaction: fix compiler warning when CONFIG_COMPACTION=n Andrew Morton
2022-04-15  2:13   ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-15  2:13 ` [patch 10/14] hugetlb: do not demote poisoned hugetlb pages Andrew Morton
2022-04-15  2:13   ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-15  2:13 ` [patch 11/14] revert "fs/binfmt_elf: fix PT_LOAD p_align values for loaders" Andrew Morton
2022-04-15  2:13   ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-15  2:13 ` [patch 12/14] revert "fs/binfmt_elf: use PT_LOAD p_align values for static PIE" Andrew Morton
2022-04-15  2:13   ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-15  2:14 ` [patch 13/14] mm/vmalloc: fix spinning drain_vmap_work after reading from /proc/vmcore Andrew Morton
2022-04-15  2:14   ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-15  2:14 ` [patch 14/14] mm: kmemleak: take a full lowmem check in kmemleak_*_phys() Andrew Morton
2022-04-15  2:14   ` Andrew Morton

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