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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Cc: Kai Huang <kai.huang@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, len.brown@intel.com, tony.luck@intel.com,
	rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com, reinette.chatre@intel.com,
	dan.j.williams@intel.com, peterz@infradead.org,
	ak@linux.intel.com, kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com,
	sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@linux.intel.com,
	isaku.yamahata@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 13/21] x86/virt/tdx: Allocate and set up PAMTs for TDMRs
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2022 14:30:31 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Ymv2h1GYCMQ9ZQvJ@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5984b61f-6a4a-c12a-944d-f4a78bdefc3d@intel.com>

On Fri, Apr 29, 2022, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 4/29/22 00:46, Kai Huang wrote:
> > On Thu, 2022-04-28 at 10:12 -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> >> This is also a good place to note the downsides of using
> >> alloc_contig_pages().
> > 
> > For instance:
> > 
> > 	The allocation may fail when memory usage is under pressure.
> 
> It's not really memory pressure, though.  The larger the allocation, the
> more likely it is to fail.  The more likely it is that the kernel can't
> free the memory or that if you need 1GB of contiguous memory that
> 999.996MB gets freed, but there is one stubborn page left.
> 
> alloc_contig_pages() can and will fail.  The only mitigation which is
> guaranteed to avoid this is doing the allocation at boot.  But, you're
> not doing that to avoid wasting memory on every TDX system that doesn't
> use TDX.
> 
> A *good* way (although not foolproof) is to launch a TDX VM early in
> boot before memory gets fragmented or consumed.  You might even want to
> recommend this in the documentation.

What about providing a kernel param to tell the kernel to do the allocation during
boot?  Or maybe a sysfs knob to reserve/free the memory, a la nr_overcommit_hugepages?

I suspect that most/all deployments that actually want to use TDX would much prefer
to eat the overhead if TDX VMs are never scheduled on the host, as opposed to having
to deal with a host in a TDX pool not actually being able to run TDX VMs.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-29 14:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 156+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-06  4:49 [PATCH v3 00/21] TDX host kernel support Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 01/21] x86/virt/tdx: Detect SEAM Kai Huang
2022-04-18 22:29   ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-04-18 22:50     ` Sean Christopherson
2022-04-19  3:38     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-26 20:21   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-26 23:12     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-26 23:28       ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-26 23:49         ` Kai Huang
2022-04-27  0:22           ` Sean Christopherson
2022-04-27  0:44             ` Kai Huang
2022-04-27 14:22           ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-27 22:39             ` Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 02/21] x86/virt/tdx: Detect TDX private KeyIDs Kai Huang
2022-04-19  5:39   ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-04-19  9:41     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-19  5:42   ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-04-19 10:07     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 03/21] x86/virt/tdx: Implement the SEAMCALL base function Kai Huang
2022-04-19 14:07   ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-04-20  4:16     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-20  7:29       ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-04-20 10:39         ` Kai Huang
2022-04-26 20:37   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-26 23:29     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 04/21] x86/virt/tdx: Add skeleton for detecting and initializing TDX on demand Kai Huang
2022-04-19 14:53   ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-04-20  4:37     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-20  5:21       ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-20 14:30       ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-04-20 22:35         ` Kai Huang
2022-04-26 20:53   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-27  0:43     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-27 14:49       ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-28  0:00         ` Kai Huang
2022-04-28 14:27           ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-28 23:44             ` Kai Huang
2022-04-28 23:53               ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-29  0:11                 ` Kai Huang
2022-04-29  0:26                   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-29  0:59                     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 05/21] x86/virt/tdx: Detect P-SEAMLDR and TDX module Kai Huang
2022-04-26 20:56   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-27  0:01     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-27 14:24       ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-27 21:30         ` Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 06/21] x86/virt/tdx: Shut down TDX module in case of error Kai Huang
2022-04-23 15:39   ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-04-25 23:41     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-26  1:48       ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-04-26  2:12         ` Kai Huang
2022-04-26 20:59   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-27  0:06     ` Kai Huang
2022-05-18 16:19       ` Sagi Shahar
2022-05-18 23:51         ` Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 07/21] x86/virt/tdx: Do TDX module global initialization Kai Huang
2022-04-20 22:27   ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-04-20 22:37     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 08/21] x86/virt/tdx: Do logical-cpu scope TDX module initialization Kai Huang
2022-04-24  1:27   ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-04-25 23:55     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 09/21] x86/virt/tdx: Get information about TDX module and convertible memory Kai Huang
2022-04-25  2:58   ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-04-26  0:05     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-27 22:15   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-28  0:15     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-28 14:06       ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-28 23:14         ` Kai Huang
2022-04-29 17:47           ` Dave Hansen
2022-05-02  5:04             ` Kai Huang
2022-05-25  4:47             ` Kai Huang
2022-05-25  4:57               ` Kai Huang
2022-05-25 16:00                 ` Kai Huang
2022-05-18 22:30       ` Sagi Shahar
2022-05-18 23:56         ` Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 10/21] x86/virt/tdx: Add placeholder to coveret all system RAM as TDX memory Kai Huang
2022-04-20 20:48   ` Isaku Yamahata
2022-04-20 22:38     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-27 22:24   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-28  0:53     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-28  1:07       ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-28  1:35         ` Kai Huang
2022-04-28  3:40           ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-28  3:55             ` Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 11/21] x86/virt/tdx: Choose to use " Kai Huang
2022-04-20 20:55   ` Isaku Yamahata
2022-04-20 22:39     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-28 15:54   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-29  7:32     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 12/21] x86/virt/tdx: Create TDMRs to cover all system RAM Kai Huang
2022-04-28 16:22   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-29  7:24     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-29 13:52       ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 13/21] x86/virt/tdx: Allocate and set up PAMTs for TDMRs Kai Huang
2022-04-28 17:12   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-29  7:46     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-29 14:20       ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-29 14:30         ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2022-04-29 17:46           ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-29 18:19             ` Sean Christopherson
2022-04-29 18:32               ` Dave Hansen
2022-05-02  5:59         ` Kai Huang
2022-05-02 14:17           ` Dave Hansen
2022-05-02 21:55             ` Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 14/21] x86/virt/tdx: Set up reserved areas for all TDMRs Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 15/21] x86/virt/tdx: Reserve TDX module global KeyID Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 16/21] x86/virt/tdx: Configure TDX module with TDMRs and " Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 17/21] x86/virt/tdx: Configure global KeyID on all packages Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 18/21] x86/virt/tdx: Initialize all TDMRs Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 19/21] x86: Flush cache of TDX private memory during kexec() Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 20/21] x86/virt/tdx: Add kernel command line to opt-in TDX host support Kai Huang
2022-04-28 17:25   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 21/21] Documentation/x86: Add documentation for " Kai Huang
2022-04-14 10:19 ` [PATCH v3 00/21] TDX host kernel support Kai Huang
2022-04-26 20:13 ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-27  1:15   ` Kai Huang
2022-04-27 21:59     ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-28  0:37       ` Kai Huang
2022-04-28  0:50         ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-28  0:58           ` Kai Huang
2022-04-29  1:40             ` Kai Huang
2022-04-29  3:04               ` Dan Williams
2022-04-29  5:35                 ` Kai Huang
2022-05-03 23:59               ` Kai Huang
2022-05-04  0:25                 ` Dave Hansen
2022-05-04  1:15                   ` Kai Huang
2022-05-05  9:54                     ` Kai Huang
2022-05-05 13:51                       ` Dan Williams
2022-05-05 22:14                         ` Kai Huang
2022-05-06  0:22                           ` Dan Williams
2022-05-06  0:45                             ` Kai Huang
2022-05-06  1:15                               ` Dan Williams
2022-05-06  1:46                                 ` Kai Huang
2022-05-06 15:57                                   ` Dan Williams
2022-05-09  2:46                                     ` Kai Huang
2022-05-10 10:25                                       ` Kai Huang
2022-05-07  0:09                         ` Mike Rapoport
2022-05-08 10:00                           ` Kai Huang
2022-05-09 10:33                             ` Mike Rapoport
2022-05-09 23:27                               ` Kai Huang
2022-05-04 14:31                 ` Dan Williams
2022-05-04 22:50                   ` Kai Huang
2022-04-28  1:01   ` Dan Williams
2022-04-28  1:21     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-29  2:58       ` Dan Williams
2022-04-29  5:43         ` Kai Huang
2022-04-29 14:39         ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-29 15:18           ` Dan Williams
2022-04-29 17:18             ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-29 17:48               ` Dan Williams
2022-04-29 18:34                 ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-29 18:47                   ` Dan Williams
2022-04-29 19:20                     ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-29 21:20                       ` Dan Williams
2022-04-29 21:27                         ` Dave Hansen
2022-05-02 10:18                   ` Kai Huang

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