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From: Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>
To: "gregkh@linuxfoundation.org" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 1/6] LICENSES: Add the copyleft-next-0.3.1 license
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2022 12:41:11 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YpkSV51Pieq7K4x2@bombadil.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YphWomPaMdLCa3Pt@kroah.com>

On Thu, Jun 02, 2022 at 08:20:18AM +0200, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 02, 2022 at 04:11:16AM +0000, Bird, Tim wrote:
> > I don't think that the Linux kernel should be used for license promotion, but if it is,
> > then it should be used to promote GPL-v2-only.
> 
> I agree, and in a way, I feel like that is what is happening here for
> this original submission.  See below for more...

I have been using copyleft-next for years and cross polination for me is real.

> I agree, dual licensed code that is added to the kernel is either done:
> 	- because the original code had a non-GPL license and it was
> 	  added so that it could be compatible so that it could be added
> 	  to Linux.
> 	- because the code being accepted into Linux can also be used in
> 	  another non-Linux codebase now or in the future.

Sometimes such cross polination is purely speculative, but we don't
stop and ask people for evidence of this.

You forgot that another reason is because some attorneys like some
permissive license more. That's it. The Clear BSD license is an example.
In that case it was a new license to Linux. So let us be clear that one
could argue that was a bit of license promotion.

> The submission here was neither of these.

You are incorrect.

I have a vision for Linux kernel testing and I have put *years* of
effort in this regard and thinking about architecture behind all this.
So yes cross polination is *extremely* important to me and hence some
of this effort.

  Luis

  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-02 19:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-29 18:44 [PATCH v9 0/6] test_sysfs: add new selftest for sysfs Luis Chamberlain
2021-10-29 18:44 ` [PATCH v9 1/6] LICENSES: Add the copyleft-next-0.3.1 license Luis Chamberlain
2022-05-23 21:10   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-24 13:59     ` Richard Fontana
2022-05-25 17:10     ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-05-25 19:13     ` Bradley M. Kuhn
2022-05-25 21:50       ` J Lovejoy
2022-05-25 22:29         ` Bradley M. Kuhn
2022-05-23 21:22   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-25 16:57     ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-05-25 20:51       ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-25 23:53         ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-05-23 21:27   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-25 16:43     ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-05-25 17:05       ` Bird, Tim
2022-05-25 18:11         ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-05-25 19:05           ` Bird, Tim
2022-05-25 19:44             ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-05-25 22:16             ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-06-02  4:11               ` Bird, Tim
2022-06-02  6:20                 ` gregkh
2022-06-02 19:41                   ` Luis Chamberlain [this message]
2022-06-02 19:30                 ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-10-29 18:44 ` [PATCH v9 2/6] testing: use the copyleft-next-0.3.1 SPDX tag Luis Chamberlain
2021-10-29 18:44 ` [PATCH v9 3/6] selftests: add tests_sysfs module Luis Chamberlain
2021-12-03 15:29   ` Greg KH
2021-12-09  1:48     ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-12-10 21:39       ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-12-14 19:31       ` [copyleft-next] " Richard Fontana
2022-05-22 14:37     ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-22 14:47       ` Greg KH
2022-05-22 15:06         ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-23 19:37           ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-10-29 18:44 ` [PATCH v9 4/6] kernfs: add initial failure injection support Luis Chamberlain
2021-10-29 18:44 ` [PATCH v9 5/6] test_sysfs: add support to use kernfs failure injection Luis Chamberlain
2021-10-29 18:45 ` [PATCH v9 6/6] kernel/module: add documentation for try_module_get() Luis Chamberlain

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