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From: "brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>,
	"Stephen Smith" <ischis2@cox.net>, git <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: SHA-256 transition
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2022 08:53:53 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YrbNIUnftj+Ooumo@tapette.crustytoothpaste.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YrWXdNGZGN7gXL40@coredump.intra.peff.net>

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On 2022-06-24 at 10:52:36, Jeff King wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 22, 2022 at 12:29:59AM +0000, brian m. carlson wrote:
> 
> > > We've since migrated our default hash function from SHA-1 to SHA-1DC
> > > (except on vanilla OSX, see [2]). It's a variant SHA-1 that detects the
> > > SHAttered attack implemented by the same researchers. I'm not aware of a
> > > current viable SHA-1 collision against the variant of SHA-1 that we
> > > actually use these days.
> > 
> > That's true, but that still doesn't let you store the data.  There is
> > some data that you can't store in a SHA-1 repository, and SHA-1DC is
> > extremely slow.  Using SHA-256 can make things like indexing packs
> > substantially faster.
> 
> I'm curious if you have numbers on this. I naively converted linux.git
> to sha256 by doing "fast-export | fast-import" (the latter in a sha256
> repo, of course, and then both repacked with "-f --window=250" to get
> reasonable apples-to-apples packs).

I did the same thing, except I just did a regular gc and not a custom
repack, and I created both a SHA-1 and SHA-256 repo from the same
original.

> Running "index-pack --verify" on the result takes about the same time
> (this is on an 8-core system, hence the real/user differences):
> 
>   [sha1dc]
>   real	2m43.754s
>   user	10m52.452s
>   sys	0m36.745s
> 
>   [sha256]
>   real	2m41.884s
>   user	12m23.344s
>   sys	0m35.222s

Here are my results:

[sha256]
time ~/checkouts/git/git index-pack --verify .git/objects/pack/pack-*.pack
~/checkouts/git/git index-pack --verify .git/objects/pack/pack-*.pack  2768.42s user 181.00s system 185% cpu 26:31.70 total

[sha1dc]
time ~/checkouts/git/git index-pack --verify .git/objects/pack/pack-*.pack
~/checkouts/git/git index-pack --verify .git/objects/pack/pack-*.pack  3041.28s user 184.84s system 199% cpu 26:54.74 total

Note that in my case, I'm using an accelerated hardware-based SHA-256
implementation (Nettle, which I will send a patch for soon).  This is a
brand new ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 10 with an i7-1280P (with 20 "cores" of
different sizes).

So this is about 9% faster in terms of total CPU usage on SHA-256 with
that implementation.  The wallclock time is less impressive here.

Of course, it might be slower in software, but considering that AMD has
had SHA-NI for some time, newer Intel processors have it, and ARM also
has SHA-2 acceleration instructions, it's likely it will be faster on
most recent machines assuming it's compiled appropriately.
-- 
brian m. carlson (he/him or they/them)
Toronto, Ontario, CA

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-06-25  8:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-20 22:51 SHA-256 transition Stephen Smith
2022-06-20 23:13 ` rsbecker
2022-06-21 10:25 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-06-21 13:18   ` rsbecker
2022-06-21 18:14     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-06-22  0:29   ` brian m. carlson
2022-06-23  0:45     ` Stephen Smith
2022-06-23  1:44       ` brian m. carlson
2022-06-23 15:32         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-06-23 22:21     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-06-24  0:29       ` Kyle Meyer
2022-06-24  1:03       ` Stephen Smith
2022-06-24  1:19         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-06-24 14:42           ` Jonathan Corbet
2022-06-24 10:52     ` Jeff King
2022-06-24 15:49       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-06-25  8:53       ` brian m. carlson [this message]
2022-06-26  0:09         ` Plan for SHA-256 repos to support SHA-1? Eric W. Biederman
2022-06-26  0:27           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-06-26 15:19             ` brian m. carlson
2022-07-01 18:00         ` SHA-256 transition Jeff King

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