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From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: "Wang, Lei" <lei4.wang@intel.com>,
	paul.c.lai@intel.com, pbonzini@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	robert.hu@intel.com, xiaoyao.li@intel.com,
	chenyi.qiang@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] i386: Add new CPU model SapphireRapids
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2022 16:05:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YysoIQEkgGRlZmfE@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YysnZp+Jxt5wHLI+@redhat.com>

* Daniel P. Berrangé (berrange@redhat.com) wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 03:51:42PM +0100, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> > * Wang, Lei (lei4.wang@intel.com) wrote:
> > > The new CPU model mostly inherits features from Icelake-Server, while
> > > adding new features:
> > >  - AMX (Advance Matrix eXtensions)
> > >  - Bus Lock Debug Exception
> > > and new instructions:
> > >  - AVX VNNI (Vector Neural Network Instruction):
> > >     - VPDPBUS: Multiply and Add Unsigned and Signed Bytes
> > >     - VPDPBUSDS: Multiply and Add Unsigned and Signed Bytes with Saturation
> > >     - VPDPWSSD: Multiply and Add Signed Word Integers
> > >     - VPDPWSSDS: Multiply and Add Signed Integers with Saturation
> > >  - FP16: Replicates existing AVX512 computational SP (FP32) instructions
> > >    using FP16 instead of FP32 for ~2X performance gain
> > >  - SERIALIZE: Provide software with a simple way to force the processor to
> > >    complete all modifications, faster, allowed in all privilege levels and
> > >    not causing an unconditional VM exit
> > >  - TSX Suspend Load Address Tracking: Allows programmers to choose which
> > >    memory accesses do not need to be tracked in the TSX read set
> > >  - AVX512_BF16: Vector Neural Network Instructions supporting BFLOAT16
> > >    inputs and conversion instructions from IEEE single precision
> > > 
> > > Features may be added in future versions:
> > >  - CET (virtualization support hasn't been merged)
> > > Instructions may be added in future versions:
> > >  - fast zero-length MOVSB (KVM doesn't support yet)
> > >  - fast short STOSB (KVM doesn't support yet)
> > >  - fast short CMPSB, SCASB (KVM doesn't support yet)
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Wang, Lei <lei4.wang@intel.com>
> > > Reviewed-by: Robert Hoo <robert.hu@linux.intel.com>
> > 
> > Hi,
> >    What fills in the AMX tile and tmul information leafs
> > (0x1D, 0x1E)?
> >   In particular, how would we make sure when we migrate between two
> > generations of AMX/Tile/Tmul capable devices with different
> > register/palette/tmul limits that the migration is tied to the CPU type
> > correctly?
> >   Would you expect all devices called a 'SappireRapids' to have the same
> > sizes?
> 
> We shouldn't assume this will only be used on 'SappireRapids' host
> silicon. Thi named CPU model is likely to be used by a guest running
> on any host silicon generations that follow SappireRapids too.

Indeed, but I wanted to check the opposite question first; whether
all SappireRapids had the same sizes; I think you're asking the opposite
question.

Dave

> With regards,
> Daniel
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Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK



  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-21 15:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-12  5:57 [PATCH] i386: Add new CPU model SapphireRapids Wang, Lei
2022-09-14 11:21 ` Igor Mammedov
2022-09-21 14:51 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2022-09-21 15:01   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-09-21 15:05     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert [this message]
2022-09-23 13:30   ` Yang Zhong
2022-09-23 16:01     ` Xiaoyao Li
2022-09-26  7:42       ` Yang Zhong
2022-09-26  8:51         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2022-09-28  8:12           ` Yang Zhong
2023-02-17  1:17   ` Xiaoyao Li

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