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From: Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>
To: Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>
Cc: Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Alison Schofield <alison.schofield@intel.com>,
	Vishal Verma <vishal.l.verma@intel.com>,
	Ben Widawsky <bwidawsk@kernel.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/9] cxl/mem: Implement Get Event Records command
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2022 21:16:01 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YyvhgeGRDM5AqdHb@iweiny-mobl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220921173642.000050ee@huawei.com>

On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 05:36:42PM +0100, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Sep 2022 15:10:26 -0700
> Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 01:23:29PM -0700, Jiang, Dave wrote:

[snip]

> > >
> > > And what gets printed
> > > to the trace buffer can be decoded data constructed from those fields by the
> > > kernel code. So with that you can have access both.
> > >   
> > 
> > Fast assigning the entire buffer + decoded versions will roughly double the
> > trace event size.
> > 
> > Thinking through this a bit more there is a sticking point.
> > 
> > The difficulty will be ensuring that any new field names are documented such
> > that when user space starts to look at them they can determine if that data
> > appears as a new field or as part of a reserved field.
> > 
> > For example if user space needs to access data in the reserved data now it can
> > simply decode it.  However, when that data becomes a field it no longer is part
> > of the reserved data.  So what user space would need to do is look for the
> > field first (ie know the field name) and then if it does not appear extract it
> > from the reserved data.
> > 
> > I'm now wondering if I've wasted my time decoding anything since the kernel
> > does not need to know anything about these fields.  Because the above scenario
> > means that user space may get ugly over time.
> > 
> > That said I don't think it will present any incompatibilities.  So perhaps we
> > are ok?
> 
> I favor decoding current record in kernel and packing it appropriately.
> If that means we don't provide some new data from a future version then such
> is life - the kernel needs upgrading.  That information is unlikely to be
> crucial - it's probably just more detail.

Dave, Dan, and I discussed this further today.  Dan expressed the same opinion.
So I'm going to remove all the reserved fields from the next version.

Thanks,
Ira

  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-22  4:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-13  5:32 [RFC PATCH 0/9] CXL: Read and clear event logs ira.weiny
2022-08-13  5:32 ` [RFC PATCH 1/9] cxl/mem: Implement Get Event Records command ira.weiny
2022-08-16 16:39   ` Steven Rostedt
2022-08-16 16:41     ` Steven Rostedt
2022-08-16 23:11       ` Ira Weiny
2022-08-16 23:35     ` Ira Weiny
2022-08-17 22:54   ` Dave Jiang
2022-09-07  4:53     ` Ira Weiny
2022-08-24 15:50   ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-09-07  4:28     ` Ira Weiny
2022-09-08 12:52       ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-09-09 20:53         ` Ira Weiny
2022-09-20 15:49           ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-09-20 20:23             ` Dave Jiang
2022-09-20 22:10               ` Ira Weiny
2022-09-21 16:36                 ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-09-22  4:16                   ` Ira Weiny [this message]
2022-08-13  5:32 ` [RFC PATCH 2/9] cxl/mem: Implement Clear " ira.weiny
2022-08-24 15:55   ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-09-09 21:35     ` Ira Weiny
2022-08-13  5:32 ` [RFC PATCH 3/9] cxl/mem: Clear events on driver load ira.weiny
2022-08-24 15:57   ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-08-13  5:32 ` [RFC PATCH 4/9] cxl/mem: Trace General Media Event Record ira.weiny
2022-08-24 16:11   ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-09-12 22:38     ` Ira Weiny
2022-09-20 15:52       ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-08-13  5:32 ` [RFC PATCH 5/9] cxl/mem: Trace DRAM " ira.weiny
2022-08-25 10:46   ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-09-12 23:04     ` Ira Weiny
2022-09-20 16:02       ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-08-13  5:32 ` [RFC PATCH 6/9] cxl/mem: Trace Memory Module " ira.weiny
2022-08-25 10:58   ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-09-14 21:17     ` Ira Weiny
2022-09-20 16:11       ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-08-13  5:32 ` [RFC PATCH 7/9] cxl/test: Add generic mock events ira.weiny
2022-08-25 11:31   ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-09-15 18:53     ` Ira Weiny
2022-09-20 16:17       ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-09-26 21:39         ` Ira Weiny
2022-09-27 13:56           ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-09-27 16:13             ` Ira Weiny
2022-09-28  9:49               ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-08-13  5:32 ` [RFC PATCH 8/9] cxl/test: Add specific events ira.weiny
2022-08-25 11:37   ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-08-13  5:32 ` [RFC PATCH 9/9] cxl/test: Simulate event log overflow ira.weiny
2022-08-16 16:44   ` Steven Rostedt
2022-08-22 16:18 ` [RFC PATCH 0/9] CXL: Read and clear event logs Davidlohr Bueso
2022-08-22 22:53   ` Ira Weiny
2022-08-23 16:12     ` Davidlohr Bueso
2022-08-24 10:07     ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-09-01 18:10       ` Dave Jiang

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