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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>
Cc: Christopher Price <pricechrispy@gmail.com>,
	slyich@gmail.com, anand.jain@oracle.com, boris@bur.io,
	clm@fb.com, dsterba@suse.com, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org,
	regressions@leemhuis.info, regressions@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [6.2 regression][bisected]discard storm on idle since v6.1-rc8-59-g63a7cb130718 discard=async
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2023 01:38:42 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZBq+ktWm2gZR/sgq@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEzrpqeOAiYCeHCuU2O8Hg5=xMwW_Suw1sXZtQ=f0f0WWHe9aw@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 05:26:49PM -0400, Josef Bacik wrote:
> We got the defaults based on our testing with our workloads inside of
> FB.  Clearly this isn't representative of a normal desktop usage, but
> we've also got a lot of workloads so figured if it made the whole
> fleet happy it would probably be fine everywhere.
> 
> That being said this is tunable for a reason, your workload seems to
> generate a lot of free'd extents and discards.  We can probably mess
> with the async stuff to maybe pause discarding if there's no other
> activity happening on the device at the moment, but tuning it to let
> more discards through at a time is also completely valid.  Thanks,

FYI, discard performance differs a lot between different SSDs.
It used to be pretty horrible for most devices early on, and then a
certain hyperscaler started requiring decent performance for enterprise
drives, so many of them are good now.  A lot less so for the typical
consumer drive, especially at the lower end of the spectrum.

And that jut NVMe, the still shipping SATA SSDs are another different
story.  Not helped by the fact that we don't even support ranged
discards for them in Linux.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-22  8:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-20 22:40 [6.2 regression][bisected]discard storm on idle since v6.1-rc8-59-g63a7cb130718 discard=async Christopher Price
2023-03-21 21:26 ` Josef Bacik
2023-03-22  8:38   ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2023-03-23 22:26     ` Sergei Trofimovich
2023-04-04 10:49       ` Linux regression tracking (Thorsten Leemhuis)
2023-04-04 16:04         ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-04-04 16:20           ` Roman Mamedov
2023-04-04 16:27             ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-04-04 23:37               ` Damien Le Moal
2023-04-04 18:15           ` Chris Mason
2023-04-04 18:51             ` Boris Burkov
2023-04-04 19:22               ` David Sterba
2023-04-04 19:39                 ` Boris Burkov
2023-04-05  8:17                   ` Linux regression tracking (Thorsten Leemhuis)
2023-04-10  2:03               ` Michael Bromilow
2023-04-11 17:52                 ` David Sterba
2023-04-11 18:15                   ` Linux regression tracking (Thorsten Leemhuis)
2023-04-04 19:08             ` Sergei Trofimovich
2023-04-05  6:18             ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-04-05 12:01               ` Chris Mason
2023-04-04 18:23         ` Boris Burkov
2023-04-04 19:12           ` Sergei Trofimovich
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2023-03-01 19:30 Sergei Trofimovich
2023-03-02  8:04 ` Linux regression tracking #adding (Thorsten Leemhuis)
2023-04-04 10:52   ` Linux regression tracking #update (Thorsten Leemhuis)
2023-04-21 13:56   ` Linux regression tracking #update (Thorsten Leemhuis)
2023-03-02  9:12 ` Anand Jain
2023-03-02 10:54   ` Sergei Trofimovich
2023-03-15 11:44     ` Linux regression tracking (Thorsten Leemhuis)
2023-03-15 16:34       ` Sergei Trofimovich

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