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From:   Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@linux.dev>
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On Tue, Apr 04, 2023 at 10:01:58AM -0600, Jens Axboe wrote:
> >> Starting to get personal instead tends to not help to convince your
> >> reviewers that it's really useful in general.
> > 
> > I know you and others like to talk a lot about what you want as
> > maintainers and reviewers - but I find that the people who are the
> > loudest and the most authoritarian in that respect tend not to be the
> > people who drive discussions forward in productive ways.
> 
> One issue is certainly that nobody wants to engage with people that
> instantly try and make this personal, or just uncomfortable in general.

Yeah, you like to respond to technical discussion with a *plonk*.

*eyeroll*

Christoph can handle himself, he doesn't need you defending him.