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From: Stephan Gerhold <stephan@gerhold.net>
To: Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@linaro.org>
Cc: Andy Gross <agross@kernel.org>,
	Bjorn Andersson <andersson@kernel.org>,
	Michael Turquette <mturquette@baylibre.com>,
	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>,
	Georgi Djakov <djakov@kernel.org>, Leo Yan <leo.yan@linaro.org>,
	Evan Green <evgreen@chromium.org>,
	Marijn Suijten <marijn.suijten@somainline.org>,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-clk@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 20/20] interconnect: qcom: Divide clk rate by src node bus width
Date: Tue, 30 May 2023 21:02:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZHZIVJFd-HU_AO2F@gerhold.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5a26e456-fe45-6def-27f9-26ec00c333e6@linaro.org>

On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 06:32:04PM +0200, Konrad Dybcio wrote:
> On 30.05.2023 12:20, Konrad Dybcio wrote:
> > Ever since the introduction of SMD RPM ICC, we've been dividing the
> > clock rate by the wrong bus width. This has resulted in:
> > 
> > - setting wrong (mostly too low) rates, affecting performance
> >   - most often /2 or /4
> >   - things like DDR never hit their full potential
> >   - the rates were only correct if src bus width == dst bus width
> >     for all src, dst pairs on a given bus
> > 
> > - Qualcomm using the same wrong logic in their BSP driver in msm-5.x
> >   that ships in production devices today
> > 
> > - me losing my sanity trying to find this
> > 
> > Resolve it by using dst_qn, if it exists.
> > 
> > Fixes: 5e4e6c4d3ae0 ("interconnect: qcom: Add QCS404 interconnect provider driver")
> > Signed-off-by: Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@linaro.org>
> > ---
> The problem is deeper.
> 
> Chatting with Stephan (+CC), we tackled a few issues (that I will send
> fixes for in v2):
> 
> 1. qcom_icc_rpm_set() should take per-node (src_qn->sum_avg, dst_qn->sum_avg)
>    and NOT aggregated bw (unless you want ALL of your nodes on a given provider
>    to "go very fast")
> 
> 2. the aggregate bw/clk rate calculation should use the node-specific bus widths
>    and not only the bus width of the src/dst node, otherwise the average bw
>    values will be utterly meaningless
> 

The peak bandwidth / clock rate is wrong as well if you have two paths
with different buswidths on the same bus/NoC. (If someone is interested
in details I can post my specific example I had in the chat, it shows
this more clearly.)

> 3. thanks to (1) and (2) qcom_icc_bus_aggregate() can be remodeled to instead
>    calculate the clock rates for the two rpm contexts, which we can then max()
>    and pass on to the ratesetting call
> 

Sounds good.

> 
> ----8<---- Cutting off Stephan's seal of approval, this is my thinking ----
> 
> 4. I *think* Qualcomm really made a mistake in their msm-5.4 driver where they
>    took most of the logic from the current -next state and should have been
>    setting the rate based on the *DST* provider, or at least that's my
>    understanding trying to read the "known good" msm-4.19 driver
>    (which remembers msm-3.0 lol).. Or maybe we should keep src but ensure there's
>    also a final (dst, dst) vote cast:
> 
> provider->inter_set = false // current state upstream
> 
> setting apps_proc<->slv_bimc_snoc
> setting mas_bimc_snoc<->slv_snoc_cnoc
> setting mas_snoc_cnoc<->qhs_sdc2
> 
> 
> provider->inter_set = true // I don't think there's effectively a difference?
> 
> setting apps_proc<->slv_bimc_snoc
> setting slv_bimc_snoc<->mas_bimc_snoc
> setting mas_bimc_snoc<->slv_snoc_cnoc
> setting slv_snoc_cnoc<->mas_snoc_cnoc
> setting mas_snoc_cnoc<->qhs_sdc2
> 

I think with our proposed changes above it does no longer matter if a
node is passed as "src" or "dst". This means in your example above you
just waste additional time setting the bandwidth twice for
slv_bimc_snoc, mas_bimc_snoc, slv_snoc_cnoc and mas_snoc_cnoc.
The final outcome is the same with or without "inter_set".

Thanks,
Stephan

  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-30 19:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-30 10:19 [PATCH 00/20] Restructure RPM SMD ICC Konrad Dybcio
2023-05-30 10:20 ` [PATCH 01/20] soc: qcom: smd-rpm: Add QCOM_SMD_RPM_STATE_NUM Konrad Dybcio
2023-06-01  9:20   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-06-01 10:01     ` Konrad Dybcio
2023-05-30 10:20 ` [PATCH 02/20] clk: qcom: smd-rpm: Move some RPM resources to the common header Konrad Dybcio
2023-06-01  9:24   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-05-30 10:20 ` [PATCH 03/20] clk: qcom: smd-rpm: Separate out interconnect bus clocks Konrad Dybcio
2023-06-01 10:03   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-06-01 10:06     ` Konrad Dybcio
2023-05-30 10:20 ` [PATCH 04/20] clk: qcom: smd-rpm: Export clock scaling availability Konrad Dybcio
2023-05-30 10:20 ` [PATCH 05/20] interconnect: qcom: icc-rpm: Introduce keep_alive Konrad Dybcio
2023-06-01  9:54   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-05-30 10:20 ` [PATCH 06/20] interconnect: qcom: icc-rpm: Allow negative QoS offset Konrad Dybcio
2023-06-01  9:56   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-06-01  9:59     ` Konrad Dybcio
2023-06-01 10:01       ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-05-30 10:20 ` [PATCH 07/20] interconnect: qcom: Fold smd-rpm.h into icc-rpm.h Konrad Dybcio
2023-06-01  9:57   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-06-01 10:00     ` Konrad Dybcio
2023-06-01 10:04       ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-06-01 10:07         ` Konrad Dybcio
2023-05-30 10:20 ` [PATCH 08/20] interconnect: qcom: smd-rpm: Add rpmcc handling skeleton code Konrad Dybcio
2023-06-01 10:01   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-06-01 10:04     ` Konrad Dybcio
2023-05-30 10:20 ` [PATCH 09/20] interconnect: qcom: Add missing headers in icc-rpm.h Konrad Dybcio
2023-06-01 10:02   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-05-30 10:20 ` [PATCH 10/20] interconnect: qcom: Define RPM bus clocks Konrad Dybcio
2023-06-01 10:04   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-05-30 10:20 ` [PATCH 11/20] interconnect: qcom: sdm660: Hook up RPM bus clk definitions Konrad Dybcio
2023-06-01 10:08   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-05-30 10:20 ` [PATCH 12/20] interconnect: qcom: msm8996: " Konrad Dybcio
2023-06-01 10:08   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-06-01 10:10     ` Konrad Dybcio
2023-06-01 10:11       ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-06-01 10:13         ` Konrad Dybcio
2023-05-30 10:20 ` [PATCH 13/20] interconnect: qcom: qcs404: " Konrad Dybcio
2023-06-01 10:09   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-05-30 10:20 ` [PATCH 14/20] interconnect: qcom: msm8939: " Konrad Dybcio
2023-06-01 10:09   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-05-30 10:20 ` [PATCH 15/20] interconnect: qcom: msm8916: " Konrad Dybcio
2023-06-01 10:10   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-05-30 10:20 ` [PATCH 16/20] interconnect: qcom: qcm2290: " Konrad Dybcio
2023-06-01 10:11   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-05-30 10:20 ` [PATCH 17/20] interconnect: qcom: icc-rpm: Control bus rpmcc from icc Konrad Dybcio
2023-05-30 13:33   ` Konrad Dybcio
2023-05-30 10:20 ` [PATCH 18/20] interconnect: qcom: icc-rpm: Fix bucket number Konrad Dybcio
2023-06-01 10:13   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-05-30 10:20 ` [PATCH 19/20] interconnect: qcom: icc-rpm: Set bandwidth on both contexts Konrad Dybcio
2023-05-30 10:20 ` [PATCH 20/20] interconnect: qcom: Divide clk rate by src node bus width Konrad Dybcio
2023-05-30 12:16   ` Konrad Dybcio
2023-05-30 16:32   ` Konrad Dybcio
2023-05-30 19:02     ` Stephan Gerhold [this message]
2023-06-01 12:43       ` Konrad Dybcio
2023-06-01 13:23         ` Stephan Gerhold
2023-06-01 13:29           ` Konrad Dybcio

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