From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from lists.xenproject.org (lists.xenproject.org [192.237.175.120]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0F842C48BC3 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2024 10:31:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lists.xenproject.org with outflank-mailman.682754.1061891 (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rc0vg-00029Z-H3; Mon, 19 Feb 2024 10:31:20 +0000 X-Outflank-Mailman: Message body and most headers restored to incoming version Received: by outflank-mailman (output) from mailman id 682754.1061891; Mon, 19 Feb 2024 10:31:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xenproject.org) by lists.xenproject.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rc0vg-00029S-ER; Mon, 19 Feb 2024 10:31:20 +0000 Received: by outflank-mailman (input) for mailman id 682754; Mon, 19 Feb 2024 10:31:19 +0000 Received: from se1-gles-sth1-in.inumbo.com ([159.253.27.254] helo=se1-gles-sth1.inumbo.com) by lists.xenproject.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rc0vf-00029M-B1 for xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 19 Feb 2024 10:31:19 +0000 Received: from mail-wm1-x32b.google.com (mail-wm1-x32b.google.com [2a00:1450:4864:20::32b]) by se1-gles-sth1.inumbo.com (Halon) with ESMTPS id 03cdf62b-cf12-11ee-8a52-1f161083a0e0; Mon, 19 Feb 2024 11:31:17 +0100 (CET) Received: by mail-wm1-x32b.google.com with SMTP id 5b1f17b1804b1-41262eaa95aso7646515e9.0 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2024 02:31:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([213.195.118.74]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 21-20020a05600c229500b0041228b2e179sm10826452wmf.39.2024.02.19.02.31.16 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 19 Feb 2024 02:31:16 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org List-Id: Xen developer discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Precedence: list Sender: "Xen-devel" X-Inumbo-ID: 03cdf62b-cf12-11ee-8a52-1f161083a0e0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=citrix.com; s=google; t=1708338677; x=1708943477; darn=lists.xenproject.org; h=in-reply-to:content-disposition:mime-version:references:message-id :subject:cc:to:from:date:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=Sp973qMCq2uetmFzE4PjtzN4lSg6l5YHUW3n6wOIGwE=; b=mnxj4OXbkxmgyGb0s6v++spEGZPu4lPICOHSd2G0uySqRVUzTmI2050WWV3xSmcNuH acweViPcFl4VTEb11Qn6s61oQVbcGCk2M418S6YKzC0UfPeW0sWmLnkSqro7V7oBZB5y U23XpBGNHPVeQ5H/sr5CkNPerHDlVQWwEgJiU= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1708338677; x=1708943477; h=in-reply-to:content-disposition:mime-version:references:message-id :subject:cc:to:from:date:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=Sp973qMCq2uetmFzE4PjtzN4lSg6l5YHUW3n6wOIGwE=; b=sbL3Pta3DnNO3O/mLGSrhJr7jdhpg++Kt3YkiWk7CvewqF4jVrEJw6ndwRvUSaVAt3 rXz1zBBoLe6Mxp228WulKmC4VDkh3XbdiuHltRUZw/TpeIkAyX/uatWJrgJktq5M9jZS TwxmlBlMfhK/OuNkOcPvGii1k3e6u5dHaoRWaW7/iOOOv9q+hNZrrW2JFTgtHabNkd2U L6qXMn8DzcGZSFcig6Qpqb9wB3u1jOofwyZXtgBbkK19RLr4xfd29WdPwpKSQR7dwiKP Md7kNMTezPa0eX4fArotmresDTkEtVd0+CRerrdp/KXJK3YWDt5NEf2Eos9Dczl1bNvl 10AQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yy76ds1nMfG6PPDSG+uXP5AgI6WIzT/eIk6GIEqzQIkCnDTDQP3 kk2gidkDmKkwaEAOCnp2NqhWy7S+w15XZGDVbSXhFRJ8NoUvdo8tyL4ekQrGP9w= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHWXp6GXytviRSlUZcOaYRs8YmDzGesYjIR+AvEKqGEeDzJzYGcJdtWwsKO+pnSnJySynZHtg== X-Received: by 2002:a05:600c:1f8b:b0:412:4a57:388f with SMTP id je11-20020a05600c1f8b00b004124a57388fmr5755383wmb.15.1708338677068; Mon, 19 Feb 2024 02:31:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2024 11:31:15 +0100 From: Roger Pau =?utf-8?B?TW9ubsOp?= To: George Dunlap Cc: Xen-devel , committers@xenproject.org, Kelly Choi Subject: Re: Stats on Xen tarball downloads Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 06:01:54PM +0800, George Dunlap wrote: > Hey all, > > One of the questions we had with respect to changing our release > practice (for instance, making the process more light-weight so that > we could do a point release after every XSA) was, "How many people are > actually using the tarballs?" What would this more lightweight process involve from a downstream PoV? IOW: in what would the contents of the tarball change compared to the current releases? > I finally got access (again) to > downloads.xenproject.org, and took a look at the logs. It appears > that we only keep about 2 weeks of logs there. > > Short answer: It's pretty clear from looking at the logs that there > are large numbers of automated build systems building various versions > of Xen from tarballs. It *looks* like there are over 300 people a > week downloading 4.18.0 specifically from various web browsers. As someone who packages Xen for FreeBSD, I've recently switched the build to use the git sources directly, as otherwise keeping up with XSA tends to be a pain, specially when XSAs happen to depend on the context of some of the backports that happened between the point release and the XSA disclosure. Overall as a consumer of Xen it would be helpful if we could make a release for each (batch) or XSAs, as that would possibly make me switch to build from the release tarballs instead of git. I don't think it would be much of a disruption if such change to generate more lightweight tarball is done starting from a major release (ie: 4.19) and minor releases of previous versions (4.18.x) are kept using the non-lightweight process. Thanks, Roger.