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From: "Ramón Nordin Rodriguez" <ramon.nordin.rodriguez@ferroamp.se>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v4 13/12] net: lan865x: optional hardware reset
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2024 10:04:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZjCmIn8ukC0lkRw5@builder> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <eaa4eb3e-d82a-4b52-a375-1fc84be7225a@lunn.ch>

> > Additionally I figured out why my setup did not work without the HW
> > reset, I had missed a pull resistor in the schematic that held the IC in
> > reset.
> 
> Having a reset controlled by software is a pretty common
> design. Something needs to ensure the device is out of reset. It could
> be the bootloader, but i don't particularly like that, hiding away
> critical things where they are hard to see. So i think having it in
> the Linux driver is better.

Wholeheartedly agree, beyond the basics of bringing up ram, cores etc.
it becomes really weird when/if the bootloaders behaviour defines kernel
functionality.

In this case the oa_tc6 module does a soft reset and waits for a status
reg to signal ready.

What seems to be missing here is that the chip signals ready/out of
reset by asserting the irq pin and setting the RESETC bit of ther OA_STATUS0
reg (which is defined behaviour in the OA spec as I understand it).

Neither the lan865x_probe or oa_tc6_init checks for the initial
condition, but I'm guessing it's a fair assumption that the chip is out
of reset by the point when the oa_tc6_sw_reset_machphy function is
invoked.

Far as I can tell no timing information is given in the datasheet.

Might be unecessary but the setup could be made more explicit/clear
with a func such as:

int oa_tc6_out_of_reset(struct oa_tc*);

Which should be invoked before any reg access/modification code in
either oa_tc6 or the mac driver.
If this fails my (opinionated) preferred style would be to do one hw
reset, recheck, and on subsequent failure bail.

Such a change would probably lead to the HW reset being invoked on
reboots (if there is enough capacitors to keep the IC powered) and
definetly as a result of kexec calls.

> 
> There is an open question of does the driver need to actually reset
> the device, or is it sufficient to ensure it is out of reset? The
> wording of the standard suggests a hardware reset cycle is probably
> not required, but why did Microchip provide a reset pin?
> 

This has me tripped up. The lan8650/1 has a configuration write
protection mechanism with an unlock sequence, described in "4.6.3
Configuration Protection" of the datasheet.
The unlocking can be bypassed/simplified with a HW reset, still does
not seem like an explanation for the functionality.

I can't define one scenario where the HW reset is definetly necessary,
but will probably do it anyways on the systems I work on.

Ramón

  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-30  8:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 121+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-18 12:56 [PATCH net-next v4 00/12] Add support for OPEN Alliance 10BASE-T1x MACPHY Serial Interface Parthiban Veerasooran
2024-04-18 12:56 ` [PATCH net-next v4 01/12] Documentation: networking: add OPEN Alliance 10BASE-T1x MAC-PHY serial interface Parthiban Veerasooran
2024-04-28  9:33   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2024-04-29 11:31     ` Parthiban.Veerasooran
2024-04-29 16:17   ` Simon Horman
2024-04-30 11:30     ` Parthiban.Veerasooran
2024-04-18 12:56 ` [PATCH net-next v4 02/12] net: ethernet: oa_tc6: implement register write operation Parthiban Veerasooran
2024-04-22 23:48   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-23  4:38     ` Parthiban.Veerasooran
2024-04-23 23:14   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-26  5:55     ` Parthiban.Veerasooran
2024-04-29 16:36   ` Simon Horman
2024-04-30  8:14     ` Parthiban.Veerasooran
2024-04-18 12:56 ` [PATCH net-next v4 03/12] net: ethernet: oa_tc6: implement register read operation Parthiban Veerasooran
2024-04-23 23:17   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-26  5:56     ` Parthiban.Veerasooran
2024-04-18 12:56 ` [PATCH net-next v4 04/12] net: ethernet: oa_tc6: implement software reset Parthiban Veerasooran
2024-04-23 23:26   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-26  6:38     ` Parthiban.Veerasooran
2024-04-18 12:56 ` [PATCH net-next v4 05/12] net: ethernet: oa_tc6: implement error interrupts unmasking Parthiban Veerasooran
2024-04-23 23:27   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-27 19:52   ` Ramón Nordin Rodriguez
2024-04-27 21:17     ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-27 21:55       ` Ramón Nordin Rodriguez
2024-04-28 14:48         ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-28  9:54       ` Ramón Nordin Rodriguez
2024-04-28 14:59         ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-28 22:04           ` Ramón Nordin Rodriguez
2024-05-01 18:29           ` Ramón Nordin Rodriguez
2024-05-01 19:58             ` Andrew Lunn
2024-05-01 20:07             ` Andrew Lunn
2024-05-02 10:10             ` Parthiban.Veerasooran
2024-05-02 10:19               ` Ramón Nordin Rodriguez
2024-05-03  7:10                 ` Parthiban.Veerasooran
2024-05-06  1:21                   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-05-06  6:47                     ` Piergiorgio Beruto
2024-05-07 12:44                       ` Ramón Nordin Rodriguez
2024-05-13  6:41                       ` Ramón Nordin Rodriguez
2024-05-13 13:00                         ` Andrew Lunn
2024-05-13 13:50                           ` Ramón Nordin Rodriguez
2024-05-13 14:04                             ` Andrew Lunn
2024-05-15 21:45                               ` Ramón Nordin Rodriguez
2024-05-14  4:46                             ` Parthiban.Veerasooran
2024-05-15 21:48                               ` Ramón Nordin Rodriguez
2024-05-17  9:38                                 ` Parthiban.Veerasooran
2024-05-17 12:43                                   ` Ramón Nordin Rodriguez
2024-05-24 18:12                                   ` Ramón Nordin Rodriguez
2024-05-24 18:31                                     ` Andrew Lunn
2024-05-24 18:49                                       ` Piergiorgio Beruto
2024-04-18 12:56 ` [PATCH net-next v4 06/12] net: ethernet: oa_tc6: implement internal PHY initialization Parthiban Veerasooran
2024-04-23 23:48   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-26 13:17     ` Parthiban.Veerasooran
2024-04-18 12:56 ` [PATCH net-next v4 07/12] net: ethernet: oa_tc6: enable open alliance tc6 data communication Parthiban Veerasooran
2024-04-23 23:49   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-18 12:56 ` [PATCH net-next v4 08/12] net: ethernet: oa_tc6: implement transmit path to transfer tx ethernet frames Parthiban Veerasooran
2024-04-24  0:02   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-26 13:19     ` Parthiban.Veerasooran
2024-04-18 12:56 ` [PATCH net-next v4 09/12] net: ethernet: oa_tc6: implement receive path to receive rx " Parthiban Veerasooran
2024-04-24  0:08   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-26 13:45     ` Parthiban.Veerasooran
2024-04-26 18:13       ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-29  6:13         ` Parthiban.Veerasooran
2024-04-27 20:02   ` Ramón Nordin Rodriguez
2024-04-29  8:32     ` Parthiban.Veerasooran
2024-04-29 10:45       ` Ramón Nordin Rodriguez
2024-04-18 12:56 ` [PATCH net-next v4 10/12] net: ethernet: oa_tc6: implement mac-phy interrupt Parthiban Veerasooran
2024-04-24  0:10   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-18 12:56 ` [PATCH net-next v4 11/12] microchip: lan865x: add driver support for Microchip's LAN865X MAC-PHY Parthiban Veerasooran
2024-04-24  0:27   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-26 13:32     ` Parthiban.Veerasooran
2024-04-26 18:14       ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-29  6:13         ` Parthiban.Veerasooran
2024-04-27 19:19   ` Ramón Nordin Rodriguez
2024-04-27 19:57     ` Conor Dooley
2024-04-27 20:13       ` Ramón Nordin Rodriguez
2024-04-27 20:22         ` Conor Dooley
2024-04-27 21:09           ` Ramón Nordin Rodriguez
2024-04-29  9:47       ` Parthiban.Veerasooran
2024-04-29 12:09         ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-30 13:30           ` Parthiban.Veerasooran
2024-04-30 16:55             ` Conor Dooley
2024-05-02  5:56               ` Parthiban.Veerasooran
2024-04-27 20:40     ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-27 21:06       ` Ramón Nordin Rodriguez
2024-04-28 14:18         ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-27 19:35   ` Ramón Nordin Rodriguez
2024-04-27 20:58     ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-27 21:29       ` Ramón Nordin Rodriguez
2024-04-28 14:25         ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-28 22:00           ` Ramón Nordin Rodriguez
2024-04-18 12:56 ` [PATCH net-next v4 12/12] dt-bindings: net: add Microchip's LAN865X 10BASE-T1S MACPHY Parthiban Veerasooran
2024-04-18 15:39   ` Conor Dooley
2024-04-22  3:59     ` Parthiban.Veerasooran
2024-04-22 15:50       ` Conor Dooley
2024-04-23  3:27         ` Parthiban.Veerasooran
2024-04-22 20:07 ` [PATCH net-next v4 00/12] Add support for OPEN Alliance 10BASE-T1x MACPHY Serial Interface Andrew Lunn
2024-04-22 20:08 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-22 23:23   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-05-08 13:05     ` Parthiban.Veerasooran
2024-05-08 17:04       ` Andrew Lunn
2024-05-09 13:04         ` Parthiban.Veerasooran
2024-05-09 20:39           ` Andrew Lunn
2024-05-10 11:22             ` Parthiban.Veerasooran
2024-05-24 20:52               ` Selvamani Rajagopal
2024-05-24 21:27                 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-05-24 21:45                   ` Piergiorgio Beruto
2024-05-24 21:54                     ` Andrew Lunn
2024-05-24 22:08                       ` Piergiorgio Beruto
2024-04-22 23:43 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-28 21:16 ` [PATCH net-next v4 13/12] net: lan865x: optional hardware reset Ramón Nordin Rodriguez
2024-04-28 23:17   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-29 10:42     ` Ramón Nordin Rodriguez
2024-04-29  6:09   ` Parthiban.Veerasooran
2024-04-29 10:38     ` Ramón Nordin Rodriguez
2024-04-29 12:19       ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-30  8:04         ` Ramón Nordin Rodriguez [this message]
2024-04-30 13:30         ` Parthiban.Veerasooran
2024-04-30 14:14           ` Andrew Lunn
2024-05-02 10:10             ` Parthiban.Veerasooran
2024-04-29  6:09   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-04-29 10:44     ` Ramón Nordin Rodriguez

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