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From: Simon Ser <contact@emersion.fr>
To: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
Cc: "Christian König" <ckoenig.leichtzumerken@gmail.com>,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"ML Mesa-dev" <mesa-dev@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Re: [Mesa-dev] [RFC] Linux Graphics Next: Explicit fences everywhere and no BO fences - initial proposal
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 12:45:08 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <_e1Ehagje93sjqgZPL8ZAGGADig6Kz46cPioyDMGLgVrl-9yBpY_mmhUZX4RgSkRvsonzSshylWcdwPiwpX0Kof1CbkQOu6ztFK8daZ-VSY=@emersion.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YIlTYjNv5RI5GuiN@phenom.ffwll.local>

On Wednesday, April 28th, 2021 at 2:21 PM, Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch> wrote:

> Yeah I think we have pretty clear consensus on that goal, just no one yet
> volunteered to get going with the winsys/wayland work to plumb drm_syncobj
> through, and the kernel/mesa work to make that optionally a userspace
> fence underneath. And it's for a sure a lot of work.

I'm interested in helping with the winsys/wayland bits, assuming the
following:

- We are pretty confident that drm_syncobj won't be superseded by
  something else in the near future. It seems to me like a lot of
  effort has gone into plumbing sync_file stuff all over, and it
  already needs replacing (I mean, it'll keep working, but we have a
  better replacement now. So compositors which have decided to ignore
  explicit sync for all this time won't have to do the work twice.)
- Plumbing drm_syncobj solves the synchronization issues with upcoming
  AMD hardware, and all of this works fine in cross-vendor multi-GPU
  setups.
- Someone is willing to spend a bit of time bearing with me and
  explaining how this all works. (I only know about sync_file for now,
  I'll start reading the Vulkan bits.)

Are these points something we can agree on?

Thanks,

Simon
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-04-28 12:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-19 10:47 [RFC] Linux Graphics Next: Explicit fences everywhere and no BO fences - initial proposal Marek Olšák
2021-04-19 15:48 ` Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-20  2:25   ` Marek Olšák
2021-04-20 10:15   ` [Mesa-dev] " Christian König
2021-04-20 10:34     ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-20 11:03       ` Marek Olšák
2021-04-20 11:16         ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-20 11:59           ` Christian König
2021-04-20 14:09             ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-20 16:24               ` Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-20 16:19             ` Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-20 12:01 ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-20 12:19   ` [Mesa-dev] " Christian König
2021-04-20 13:03   ` Daniel Stone
2021-04-20 14:04     ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-20 12:42 ` Daniel Stone
2021-04-20 15:45   ` Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-20 17:44     ` Daniel Stone
2021-04-20 18:00       ` [Mesa-dev] " Christian König
2021-04-20 18:15         ` Daniel Stone
2021-04-20 19:03           ` Bas Nieuwenhuizen
2021-04-20 19:18             ` Daniel Stone
2021-04-20 18:53       ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-20 19:14         ` Daniel Stone
2021-04-20 19:29           ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-20 20:32             ` Daniel Stone
2021-04-26 20:59               ` Marek Olšák
2021-04-27  8:02                 ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-27 11:49                   ` Marek Olšák
2021-04-27 12:06                     ` Christian König
2021-04-27 12:11                       ` Marek Olšák
2021-04-27 12:15                         ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-27 12:27                           ` Christian König
2021-04-27 12:46                           ` Marek Olšák
2021-04-27 12:50                             ` Christian König
2021-04-27 13:26                               ` Marek Olšák
2021-04-27 15:13                                 ` Christian König
2021-04-27 17:31                                 ` Lucas Stach
2021-04-27 17:35                                   ` Simon Ser
2021-04-27 18:01                                     ` Alex Deucher
2021-04-27 18:27                                       ` Simon Ser
2021-04-28 10:01                                         ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-28 10:05                                       ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-28 10:31                                         ` Christian König
2021-04-28 12:21                                           ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-28 12:26                                             ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-28 13:11                                               ` Christian König
2021-04-28 13:34                                                 ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-28 13:37                                                   ` Christian König
2021-04-28 14:34                                                     ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-28 14:45                                                       ` Christian König
2021-04-29 11:07                                                         ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-28 20:39                                                       ` Alex Deucher
2021-04-29 11:12                                                         ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-30  8:58                                                           ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-30  9:07                                                             ` Christian König
2021-04-30  9:35                                                               ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-30 10:17                                                                 ` Daniel Stone
2021-04-28 12:45                                             ` Simon Ser [this message]
2021-04-28 13:03                                           ` Alex Deucher
2021-04-27 19:41                                   ` Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-27 21:58                                     ` Marek Olšák
2021-04-28  4:01                                       ` Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-28  5:19                                         ` Marek Olšák
2021-04-27 18:38                       ` Dave Airlie
2021-04-27 19:23                         ` Marek Olšák
2021-04-28  6:59                           ` Christian König
2021-04-28  9:07                             ` Michel Dänzer
2021-04-28  9:57                               ` Daniel Vetter
2021-05-01 22:27                               ` Marek Olšák
2021-05-03 14:42                                 ` Alex Deucher
2021-05-03 14:59                                   ` Jason Ekstrand
2021-05-03 15:03                                     ` Christian König
2021-05-03 15:15                                       ` Jason Ekstrand
2021-05-03 15:16                                     ` Bas Nieuwenhuizen
2021-05-03 15:23                                       ` Jason Ekstrand
2021-05-03 20:36                                         ` Marek Olšák
2021-05-04  3:11                                           ` Marek Olšák
2021-05-04  7:01                                             ` Christian König
2021-05-04  7:32                                               ` Daniel Vetter
2021-05-04  8:09                                                 ` Christian König
2021-05-04  8:27                                                   ` Daniel Vetter
2021-05-04  9:14                                                     ` Christian König
2021-05-04  9:47                                                       ` Daniel Vetter
2021-05-04 10:53                                                         ` Christian König
2021-05-04 11:13                                                           ` Daniel Vetter
2021-05-04 12:48                                                             ` Christian König
2021-05-04 16:44                                                               ` Daniel Vetter
2021-05-04 17:16                                                               ` Marek Olšák
2021-05-04 21:06                                                                 ` Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-28  9:54                             ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-27 20:49                         ` Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-27 12:12                     ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-20 19:16         ` Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-20 19:27           ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-20 14:53 ` Daniel Stone
2021-04-20 14:58   ` [Mesa-dev] " Christian König
2021-04-20 15:07     ` Daniel Stone
2021-04-20 15:16       ` Christian König
2021-04-20 15:49         ` Daniel Stone
2021-04-20 16:25           ` Marek Olšák
2021-04-20 16:42             ` Jacob Lifshay
2021-04-20 18:03             ` Daniel Stone
2021-04-20 18:39             ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-20 19:20               ` Marek Olšák

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