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Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <275187e0-92b5-d0a6-0bf7-76c827e2c808@infradead.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-bounce-key: webpack.hosteurope.de;linux@leemhuis.info;1601719885;9082f3d0; X-HE-SMSGID: 1kOeVg-0003S9-3R Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Many thx for you comments. Consider all the obvious spelling and grammatical mistakes you pointed out fixed, I won't mention all of them in this reply to keep things easier to follow. Am 02.10.20 um 19:51 schrieb Randy Dunlap: > On 10/1/20 1:39 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: >> = RFC = >> >> Am I asking for too much from users by telling them to test mainline? But most >> will likely have an outdated and heavily patched vendor kernel anyway, so they >> have to install a vanilla kernel if they want to report something upstream; >> that's why I thought "well, then let's go all in and make them test mainline. > > That is appropriate IMO. Yeah, but finding the the right tone in the text seem important to me, as some people might see it as "hey, the kernel develpers are putting the bar really really high". That's why I pointed it out explicitly. >> +Instead, look a little lower for a table for a line with the description > > with a line with the description > >> +'mainline', which you'll find at the top of that table. Rewrote this sentence: Instead, look at the table below for a line starting with 'mainline', which you'll find at the top of that table. Ciao, Thorsten