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From: Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@arm.com>
To: "Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Borislav Petkov" <bp@alien8.de>,
	"Dave Hansen" <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	"Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"Andy Lutomirski" <luto@kernel.org>,
	"Jirka Hladký" <jhladky@redhat.com>,
	"Jiří Vozár" <jvozar@redhat.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, "Qais Yousef" <qais.yousef@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] sched/debug: add sched_update_nr_running tracepoint
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2019 17:05:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a2924d91-df68-42de-0709-af53649346d5@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190903154340.860299-3-rkrcmar@redhat.com>

On 03/09/2019 16:43, Radim Krčmář wrote:
> The paper "The Linux Scheduler: a Decade of Wasted Cores" used several
> custom data gathering points to better understand what was going on in
> the scheduler.
> Red Hat adapted one of them for the tracepoint framework and created a
> tool to plot a heatmap of nr_running, where the sched_update_nr_running
> tracepoint is being used for fine grained monitoring of scheduling
> imbalance.
> The tool is available from https://github.com/jirvoz/plot-nr-running.
> 
> The best place for the tracepoints is inside the add/sub_nr_running,
> which requires some shenanigans to make it work as they are defined
> inside sched.h.
> The tracepoints have to be included from sched.h, which means that
> CREATE_TRACE_POINTS has to be defined for the whole header and this
> might cause problems if tree-wide headers expose tracepoints in sched.h
> dependencies, but I'd argue it's the other side's misuse of tracepoints.
> 
> Moving the import sched.h line lower would require fixes in s390 and ppc
> headers, because they don't include dependecies properly and expect
> sched.h to do it, so it is simpler to keep sched.h there and
> preventively undefine CREATE_TRACE_POINTS right after.
> 
> Exports of the pelt tracepoints remain because they don't need to be
> protected by CREATE_TRACE_POINTS and moving them closer would be
> unsightly.
> 

Pure trace events are frowned upon in scheduler world, try going with
trace points. Qais did something very similar recently:

https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20190604111459.2862-1-qais.yousef@arm.com/

You'll have to implement the associated trace events in a module, which
lets you define your own event format and doesn't form an ABI :).

  reply	other threads:[~2019-09-03 16:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-03 15:43 [PATCH 0/2] sched/debug: add sched_update_nr_running tracepoint Radim Krčmář
2019-09-03 15:43 ` [PATCH 1/2] x86/mm/tlb: include tracepoints from tlb.c instead of mmu_context.h Radim Krčmář
2019-09-03 15:43 ` [PATCH 2/2] sched/debug: add sched_update_nr_running tracepoint Radim Krčmář
2019-09-03 16:05   ` Valentin Schneider [this message]
2019-09-04  4:23     ` Joel Fernandes
2019-09-04  8:14       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-04 10:52         ` Qais Yousef
2019-09-04 13:11         ` Joel Fernandes
2019-09-04 15:26           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-09-04 15:33             ` Joel Fernandes
2019-09-04 15:37               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-09-04 15:41                 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-09-04 10:43       ` Qais Yousef
2019-09-04 13:06         ` Joel Fernandes
2019-09-04 14:20           ` Qais Yousef
2019-09-04 14:41             ` Joel Fernandes
2019-09-04 14:57               ` Qais Yousef
2019-09-04 15:46                 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-09-04 15:25           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-09-04 15:40             ` Joel Fernandes
2019-09-04 15:51               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-09-04 17:47                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-04 17:53                   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-09-05  8:13                     ` Ingo Molnar
2019-09-05 16:49                       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-09-04  6:55     ` chengjian (D)
2019-09-04 13:13   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-04 13:21     ` Valentin Schneider
2019-09-04 14:37   ` Qais Yousef
2019-09-04 17:48     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-09 10:59       ` Qais Yousef

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