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From: Chengming Zhou <chengming.zhou@linux.dev>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>
Cc: penberg@kernel.org, rientjes@google.com, iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, roman.gushchin@linux.dev,
	42.hyeyoo@gmail.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Chengming Zhou <zhouchengming@bytedance.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 0/7] slub: Delay freezing of CPU partial slabs
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2023 10:29:53 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a3b588fd-002a-4f40-95d8-aaf672c81fb5@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <04cbf4cd-3f62-9068-b4fd-c90158f2f116@suse.cz>

On 2023/10/31 00:19, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> On 10/28/23 04:36, Chengming Zhou wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> After this patch the PG_workingset indicates the state of being on the partial lists.
>>>
>>> What does "frozen slab" then mean? The slab is being allocated from? Is that information useful or can we drop the frozen flag?
>>
>> Right, frozen slab is the cpu slab, which is being allocated from by the cpu that froze it.
>>
>> IMHO, the "frozen" bit is useful because:
>>
>> 1. PG_workingset is only useful on partial slab, which indicates the slab is on the node
>>    partial list, so we can manipulate its list in the __slab_free() path.
>>
>> 2. But for full slab (slab->freelist == NULL), PG_workingset is not much useful, we don't
>>    safely know whether it's used as the cpu slab or not just from this flag. So __slab_free()
>>    still rely on the "frozen" bit to know it.
> 
> Well, we could extend the meaning of PG_workingset to mean "not a cpu slab
> or pecpu partial slab" i.e. both on node partial list and full. However it
> would increase the number of cases where __slab_free() has to lock the
> list_lock and check the PG_working set. "slab->freelist == NULL" might
> happen often exactly because the freelist became cpu freelist.

Ah, right, it's possible to do like this.

> 
>> 3. And the maintaining of "frozen" has no extra cost now, since it's changed together with "freelist"
>>    and other counter using cmpxchg, we already have the cmpxchg when start to use a slab as the cpu slab.
> 
> And together with this point, I don't see a reason to drop the frozen bit.
> It's still useful for cpu slabs. It just wasn't the best possible solution
> for percpu partial slabs.
> 
>> Maybe I missed something, I don't know how to drop the frozen flag.
> 
> Should be possible, but not worth it IMHO.

Agree, we'll just keep "frozen" for the cpu slabs.

Thanks!

  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-31  2:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-24  9:33 [RFC PATCH v3 0/7] slub: Delay freezing of CPU partial slabs chengming.zhou
2023-10-24  9:33 ` [RFC PATCH v3 1/7] slub: Keep track of whether slub is on the per-node partial list chengming.zhou
     [not found]   ` <6d054dbe-c90d-591d-11ca-b9ad3787683d@suse.cz>
2023-10-28  1:30     ` Chengming Zhou
2023-10-24  9:33 ` [RFC PATCH v3 2/7] slub: Prepare __slab_free() for unfrozen partial slab out of node " chengming.zhou
     [not found]   ` <43da5c9a-aeff-1bff-81a8-4611470c2514@suse.cz>
2023-10-28  1:35     ` Chengming Zhou
2023-10-24  9:33 ` [RFC PATCH v3 3/7] slub: Reflow ___slab_alloc() chengming.zhou
2023-10-24  9:33 ` [RFC PATCH v3 4/7] slub: Change get_partial() interfaces to return slab chengming.zhou
2023-10-30 16:55   ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-10-31  2:22     ` Chengming Zhou
2023-10-24  9:33 ` [RFC PATCH v3 5/7] slub: Introduce freeze_slab() chengming.zhou
2023-10-30 18:11   ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-10-24  9:33 ` [RFC PATCH v3 6/7] slub: Delay freezing of partial slabs chengming.zhou
2023-10-24 14:30   ` kernel test robot
2023-10-24 14:42     ` Chengming Zhou
2023-10-24 15:22   ` kernel test robot
2023-10-25  2:18   ` Chengming Zhou
2023-10-26  5:49   ` kernel test robot
2023-10-26  7:41     ` Chengming Zhou
2023-10-31  9:50   ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-10-24  9:33 ` [RFC PATCH v3 7/7] slub: Optimize deactivate_slab() chengming.zhou
2023-10-31 11:15   ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-10-31 11:41     ` Chengming Zhou
2023-10-27 17:57 ` [RFC PATCH v3 0/7] slub: Delay freezing of CPU partial slabs Christoph Lameter
2023-10-28  2:36   ` Chengming Zhou
2023-10-30 16:19     ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-10-31  2:29       ` Chengming Zhou [this message]
2023-10-30 19:25     ` Christoph Lameter
2023-10-31  2:50       ` Chengming Zhou
2023-10-31  3:47         ` Christoph Lameter
2023-10-31  4:57           ` Chengming Zhou

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