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From: THOBY Simon <Simon.THOBY@viveris.fr>
To: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>, liqiong <liqiong@nfschina.com>
Cc: "dmitry.kasatkin@gmail.com" <dmitry.kasatkin@gmail.com>,
	"jmorris@namei.org" <jmorris@namei.org>,
	"serge@hallyn.com" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	"linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org"
	<linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org" 
	<linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ima: fix infinite loop within "ima_match_policy" function.
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 12:02:13 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a4302c76-5865-a8f5-e754-c5dd04030533@viveris.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c02ff60205fdb343cb5a2ff0e4384fc7b47635a3.camel@linux.ibm.com>

Hi Mimi,

On 8/23/21 1:57 PM, Mimi Zohar wrote:
> On Mon, 2021-08-23 at 08:14 +0000, THOBY Simon wrote:
>> Hi Liqiong,
>>
>> On 8/23/21 10:06 AM, liqiong wrote:
>>> Hi Simon :
>>>
>>> Using a temporary ima_rules variable is not working for "ima_policy_next". 
>>>
>>>  void *ima_policy_next(struct seq_file *m, void *v, loff_t *pos)
>>>  {
>>>  	struct ima_rule_entry *entry = v;
>>> -
>>> +	struct list_head *ima_rules_tmp = rcu_dereference(ima_rules);
>>>  	rcu_read_lock();
>>>  	entry = list_entry_rcu(entry->list.next, struct ima_rule_entry, list);
>>>  	rcu_read_unlock();
>>>  	(*pos)++;
>>>  
>>> -	return (&entry->list == ima_rules) ? NULL : entry;
>>> +	return (&entry->list == ima_rules_tmp) ? NULL : entry;
>>>  }
>>>
>>> It seems no way to fix "ima_rules" change within this function, it will alway
>>> return a entry if "ima_rules" being changed.
>>
>> - I think rcu_dereference() should be called inside the RCU read lock
>> - Maybe we could cheat with:
>> 	return (&entry->list == &ima_policy_rules || &entry->list == &ima_default_rules) ? NULL : entry;
>>   as that's the only two rulesets IMA ever use?
>>   Admittedly, this is not as clean as previously, but it should work too.
>>
>> The way I see it, the semaphore solution would not work here either,
>> as ima_policy_next() is called repeatedly as a seq_file
>> (it is set up in ima_fs.c) and we can't control the locking there:
>> we cannot lock across the seq_read() call (that cure could end up be
>> worse than the disease, deadlock-wise), so I fear we cannot protect
>> against a list update while a user is iterating with a lock.
>>
>> So in both cases a cheat like "&entry->list == &ima_policy_rules || &entry->list == &ima_default_rules"
>> maybe need to be considered.
>>
>> What do you think?
> 
> Is this an overall suggestion or limited to just ima_policy_next()?

I was thinking only of ima_policy_next(), I don't think (from what I could see in a short glance)
that other functions need such a treatment. The ima_rules_tmp dance is probably safe for the
other uses of ima_rules.

> 
> thanks,
> 
> Mimi
> 
> 

Thanks,
Simon

  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-23 12:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-19 10:15 [PATCH] ima: fix infinite loop within "ima_match_policy" function liqiong
2021-08-19 12:58 ` THOBY Simon
2021-08-19 13:47   ` Mimi Zohar
2021-08-19 19:31     ` Mimi Zohar
2021-08-20 10:15   ` 李力琼
2021-08-20 13:23     ` THOBY Simon
2021-08-20 15:48       ` Mimi Zohar
2021-08-23  3:04         ` 李力琼
2021-08-23  7:51           ` 李力琼
2021-08-23  8:06           ` liqiong
2021-08-23  8:14             ` THOBY Simon
2021-08-23 11:57               ` Mimi Zohar
2021-08-23 12:02                 ` THOBY Simon [this message]
2021-08-23 12:09                   ` Mimi Zohar
2021-08-23 12:56               ` liqiong
2021-08-23 11:22           ` Mimi Zohar
2021-08-20 17:53       ` liqiong
2021-08-23  7:13         ` THOBY Simon
2021-08-24  8:57 ` [PATCH] ima: fix deadlock " liqiong
2021-08-24  9:50   ` THOBY Simon
2021-08-24 12:09     ` liqiong
2021-08-24 12:38       ` Mimi Zohar
2021-08-25  7:05         ` [PATCH] ima: fix deadlock within RCU list of ima_rules liqiong
2021-08-25 11:45           ` liqiong
2021-08-25 12:03             ` THOBY Simon
2021-08-26  8:15               ` liqiong
2021-08-26  9:01                 ` THOBY Simon
2021-08-27  6:41                   ` liqiong
2021-08-27  7:30                     ` THOBY Simon
2021-08-27  9:10                       ` liqiong
2021-08-27  9:20                         ` THOBY Simon
2021-08-27 10:35   ` [PATCH] ima: fix deadlock when traversing "ima_default_rules" liqiong
2021-08-27 16:16     ` Mimi Zohar
2021-09-18  3:11     ` liqiong
2021-09-30 19:46       ` Mimi Zohar
2021-10-09 10:38       ` liqiong

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